ViribusUnits

I've found out I can lock up the tires at jsut about any speed, under just about any circumstance. Yes, I locked up up at 80... Opss! Got off of 'em realy quick like too, didn't want to spin!

Also found out if your on wet grass, the only way you'll ever know your frounts are locked up is when the steering doesn't work. OPSS! big time. Almost cought a culvert on that one...

Joe Ricard

Put your car back in the garage till you can learn to behave

ViribusUnits

Who me?

Why?

The wet grass incident was a screw up, I'll admit that. The road dead ended into a feild with no sign, and it hapopened to be at night. I was going a reasonable speed, it just it vanished. I ended up in a feild, on grass sideing down a ditch toward a culvert. Only did that once. Usualy there is a ditch first, and I was looking for the ditch. What it was was there was a drive way of sorts into the feild, and I mistakenly thought it was the road changeing from paved into graval. I didn't see the grass untill rather late. Romped n the brakes rather lightly, I knew it was slick, but I didn't know the brakes where THAT strong. They locked up the frounts before I knew what was happening. I let off to nearly nothing, and the steering returned. Just like it always does.

But the 80 mph locking the brakes up wasn't my fault. Damn idoit pulled out infrount of me. Brakes slow down enough to let the on comeing car go by, followed by steering to get around the slow idoit that cut me off. And ballance the whole deal so I dont try to swop ends.

Course this reminds me of that 18 wheeled truck decided to change lanes INTO me. Apperently he didn't look at his mirror, and just changed lanes. Opps. Not my fault.

Red UFO

ViribusUnits, Your shark a stick and what color?

I have an 83, 5speed and finally considering some mods.

Gregg K

What all needs to be changed in order to put newer brakes on a '79? I'm hearing that it takes spindles, and upper and lower arms, and a conversion bracket. If that's true, it's a lot of stuff to have to change. I'm only thinking of front brakes.

ViribusUnits

Red, my sharks a stick. And it's red, I'm saveing up to get it green.

As far as mods. go I'm not the man to talk to. I've spend the last 10 months undoing most of what the PO did, as I didn't like it. I'm looking at getting a set of headers, but what I'd really like is a new cam. I supect that the 928's cam is the most restrictive thing in the engine, thus a new cam has the possibility to really make a diffrence, expecaly with a set of headers.

I am happy with the driveing lights, and now it's almost like haveing two set of head lights. I'm tempted to remove the driveing lights, add a second set of fog lights in the grill, and then build a custom box to hold a set of true head lights where the driveing lights go. This away I can have more light when it's dark, and it doesn't look funny.

Another modification that I did is I can never see when I'm backing up. I added a set of flood lights where the rear bumperets go. They didn't end up looking as good as I wanted, but a deffent improvement over the black pastic things. Plus I can now see when I want to go backward. I mannaged to wire it to a switch I threw under my seat.

Other than that, there isn't anything special to my car.

GlenL

Call your favorite Big Three vendor.

My understanding is that cars with the pre-S brakes, that's '77 to like US '82, can be upgraded to S4 brakes with a simple adaptor bracket. No spindle or A-arm changes needed.

sweanders

Sounds like if you need to get stickier tires if the brakes are locking up all of the time.

John.

I did my 81 with Spindles, Rotors, Calipers and the shields. It was a very easy conversion. No need to change A-arms.

If you want to go with S4 brakes, there is a conversion adaptor for the early spindles...I did not know this at the time I did my spindle conversion so I went for the S upgrade. Total bolt-on package, nothing to worry about.

Joe Ricard

If anyone is interested I still have my 78 complete spindles, hubs, bearings, rotors. Let me know real cheap.

tv

Red UFO (tom) will be appearing at the tropicana nov. 11-14 then he can be seen at the nugget in Reno.
Thanks for the laugh it made me cough i laughed so hard.
My brakes seem good for everything so far, but what i find impressive is that the car does not nosedive on hard braking. The suspension on this car is phenomenal, following other p-cars in tight corners, I can plant mine and it is on rails.
Tom

1985 928s2 euro

Ad0911

Reading this thread, I think I don't need to upgrade to GT spec brakes but instead to upgrade to "S" brakes on my 1978 non-S car. Do I need to do front and rears or just the fronts? What changes do I need to make to fit the "S" calipers? Are the rotors the same as my normal 1978 non-S rotors? Will the deflector plates still fit? And most importantly: how can I distinguish the "S" calipers from the non-S versions? What do they look like? Do I also need to fit a larger vacuum drum (whatsitcalled)?

karl ruiter

You have to change spindels and rotors too as I recall. Don't know about the deflector plate. The vacume drum is optional and a PITA.

Glenn Evans

The rear brakes on your MY78 are the same as those on the S. Both your fronts and rears are floating caliper brakes. Looking through the wheel, you can see the back of the pad sitting inside a steel frame. The S has sliding front calipers. They are solid cast iron (the sides and top are solid) and big. There is no mistaking the two.

The vacuum booster on your MY78 is nine inches in diameter. The diameter was increased to ten inches, I think in MY80. I am not sure whether this was fitted only with the S front brakes, which some non-S MY80s got. Mine has both. :-)

tilac999

Now I own the '85 Euro from the OP. I've never had better brakes on any car.