View Poll Results: New 928 - Good or Bad Idea?
Yes, good idea and clearly link it to the 928.
172
86.00%
Yes, good idea, but don't link it to the 928.
10
5.00%
No, bad idea all around (please say why below).
18
9.00%
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Should Porsche come out with a "new" 928?
#1
Should Porsche come out with a "new" 928?
There is (yet again) a flurry of activity here about the new Panamera and the "spiritual successor" to the 928. Most seem to think it's a great idea, but some think it isn't. I think it will drive up values of our cars - the original sharks - over the long run.
So, what do you think? Good idea or not?
So, what do you think? Good idea or not?
#5
I think that since Porsche had a machine that they made for about 18 years, and it was the Flagship model.
They should atleast be smart enough to cash in on the Hype/advertising/marketing money they spent on the original to garner interest for their future.
This will bring in a crowd of former owners as they will feel comfortable with the past and be willing to try the future.
The Pananmera OTOH has no such history and thus will be trying to open a door that has never been opened before
They should atleast be smart enough to cash in on the Hype/advertising/marketing money they spent on the original to garner interest for their future.
This will bring in a crowd of former owners as they will feel comfortable with the past and be willing to try the future.
The Pananmera OTOH has no such history and thus will be trying to open a door that has never been opened before
#6
I agree, it will make our cars that much more collectable. And if the car resembles the origional 928 I'll be willing to fork over the cash to buy one. It would be great to have both.
#7
Yes. The public still equates the 928 with exotic, high performance, luxury motoring. I think the Panomerta (doesn't that mean universal silence in the mob?) is a good starting point. They could eliminate the rear doors and even call it 928, in the same fashion that a Boxster with a roof became the Cayman.
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#8
As much as I HATE the idea of a panamera coupe being called a 928....which is an insult since it IS NOT a clean sheet design like the 928 was...it was a sedan cut into a coupe...but anyway I digress
I do think they will call it a 928 just for marketing reasons....& it should increase the interest in our 928's....
I do think they will call it a 928 just for marketing reasons....& it should increase the interest in our 928's....
#9
They won't call it 928... they have already said they are not using numbers anymore, but things have been known to change, but don't be on 928 AT ALL.
Also the car that I read about a few years ago that would be based on the Pana as the spiritual successor to the 928 would cost in excess of $225k! That is the target price! It would be targeted to compete with (and really fall between) the Ferrari 599 and 612 models. By now we are probably looking at a car that would be more like $275k...
Personally I think they would be better off to scale that back a bit and compete between the GORGEOUS Aston Martin DB9 and Vantage and be priced in the $150k range. That would not make the car a "Flagship model" anymore though. Hence the pundits thinking that if in fact it is going to stay flagship it has to compete w/ Ferrari's top cars...
We should know a lot more in about 2 years I would say...
Also the car that I read about a few years ago that would be based on the Pana as the spiritual successor to the 928 would cost in excess of $225k! That is the target price! It would be targeted to compete with (and really fall between) the Ferrari 599 and 612 models. By now we are probably looking at a car that would be more like $275k...
Personally I think they would be better off to scale that back a bit and compete between the GORGEOUS Aston Martin DB9 and Vantage and be priced in the $150k range. That would not make the car a "Flagship model" anymore though. Hence the pundits thinking that if in fact it is going to stay flagship it has to compete w/ Ferrari's top cars...
We should know a lot more in about 2 years I would say...
#10
Yep. A fresh 928 would make me happy. I'd like to see Porsche build a modern version of the original design. I have no problem with them using existing parts like drivetrain, instruments and interior pieces. I would like to see them make "miniature light pods" that housed HID lights. I'd rather see a turbo flat six up front than the Cayanne/Panam powerplant if it means a tall hood.... Or even better, make a new 928 engine based on a Greg Brown stroker with variocam or similar technology and accessory belt driven waterpump added....
I'm excited to see what they do in any case...
I'm excited to see what they do in any case...
#11
Call it the Panamera Coupe or the 929...anything other than 928.
#12
Well the 929 was a Mazda sedan - so let's nick that one. I'd love to see a new 928, but I really wonder if there is a sufficient 928 following to justify it. The 911 is such an icon it could never die, and the Boxster picked up the niche left by the demise of the 944 (i.e. entry level - even though current costs aren't really "entry" these days) plus it built on the whole 550 Spyder lore. But the 928 would be a high-dollar, low-volume car. In todays economy I just don't know if it would be profitable. I would love to think it would be - but I'm not convinced. Maybe if it could be built on the Panamera platform. As I understand it, the rumor mill is that VW will be nixing the Panamera and Cayenne, so it would be a way to recoup part of that investment.
#13
I would love to see another 928, but honestly I don't know what market they would go in to that they could be competitive in, and not compete directly with themselves.
With the success of the Boxster, Cayman, Cayenne and hopefully the success of the Panamera, I think purchasers have shown that they are not as married to the 911 model as they used to be. This is of course a benefit to the idea of making a new 928, but where would they put it? Anything under $150k is something I don't think they would be competitive in. Between low-end(well, in this case low-end) sports cars like the Nissan GT-R, or the Corvettes, you couldn't do well in the $70k area. Also the new Jags cover a broad range of GT cars. The small Astons, and other popular supercars like the low-end(hah) Ferraris and Lamborghinis will once again entrap consumers, leaving an expensive Porsche unloved. Also the new Ferrari California is in this area (I think?). I would imagine to find a market for a new Porsche GT car, you'd have to aim pretty damn high, like the $200k+ market, and just make it a *****-out halo car, a one-off, exclusive engineering masterpiece that you can hang your hat on. Maybe not quite Aston 77 territory (or whatever they're calling it) maybe slightly less than the (overpriced) Lexus LF-A. The 599 sounds like a good target to set, maybe outperform it and cost a little less.
Although honestly, I think we have a better chance of seeing a successor to the 944, and making a front engined car with probably the 2.0t from a VW in it, and selling it on level or a little less than the Boxster, and competing with the likes of the 370z, Hyundai Genesis, high end Mustang GTs, Dodge Chargers, and other 30-40k RWD cars.
With the success of the Boxster, Cayman, Cayenne and hopefully the success of the Panamera, I think purchasers have shown that they are not as married to the 911 model as they used to be. This is of course a benefit to the idea of making a new 928, but where would they put it? Anything under $150k is something I don't think they would be competitive in. Between low-end(well, in this case low-end) sports cars like the Nissan GT-R, or the Corvettes, you couldn't do well in the $70k area. Also the new Jags cover a broad range of GT cars. The small Astons, and other popular supercars like the low-end(hah) Ferraris and Lamborghinis will once again entrap consumers, leaving an expensive Porsche unloved. Also the new Ferrari California is in this area (I think?). I would imagine to find a market for a new Porsche GT car, you'd have to aim pretty damn high, like the $200k+ market, and just make it a *****-out halo car, a one-off, exclusive engineering masterpiece that you can hang your hat on. Maybe not quite Aston 77 territory (or whatever they're calling it) maybe slightly less than the (overpriced) Lexus LF-A. The 599 sounds like a good target to set, maybe outperform it and cost a little less.
Although honestly, I think we have a better chance of seeing a successor to the 944, and making a front engined car with probably the 2.0t from a VW in it, and selling it on level or a little less than the Boxster, and competing with the likes of the 370z, Hyundai Genesis, high end Mustang GTs, Dodge Chargers, and other 30-40k RWD cars.
#14
Some new pics on a UK car magazine along with some more info.. nice rear end!
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...c3d578ec61aebb
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...c3d578ec61aebb
Last edited by Hilton; 10-29-2009 at 05:45 PM.