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Old 05-03-2016, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
There is no such thing as a vehicle 100% designed by a car company. Fuel injection, ignition, connectors, wiper blades, washer pumps, etc , are all made by outside companies. There is always something that doesn't make sense to redesign....
I'm far from talking about the little niggly bits and pieces... everybody knows that all those things are not manufactured in the Porsche factory. However, nearly every automotive functional piece of the 928 was reengineered or spec'd out specifically for the 928 in a way that no other car manufacturer, at the time, had ever done before, right down to the decision to use a wood cover for the fuse panel in the passenger side footwell.

The nearly five plus years of development of the 928 was, at the time, revolutionary and the costs to bring it to production were an absolutely staggering undertaking for any automobile manufacturer. Such ownership of the engineering and development largely contributed to the Porsche 928 being the first sports car ever to win Car of The Year at the Geneva Auto Show.

Read the book on the development if you really want gain the best understanding of how complex and purpose built design engineering went into this car... it is purely astonishing at how much Porsche wanted this to be their own and reflective of no others.
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I guarantee you Mogan was putting a piece of wood over their fuse boxes decades before the 928 came out

Most of us are fully aware of the Project 928 book, some of us even have a custom leather case for it:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...or-s-case.html
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I guarantee you Mogan was putting a piece of wood over their fuse boxes decades before the 928 came out

Most of us are fully aware of the Project 928 book, some of us even have a custom leather case for it:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...or-s-case.html
No doubt there is a considerable amount of wood in the Morgan frame and automobile, but I am afraid the Morgan inspired nothing for the 928 conceptually, engineer or design wise.

Hack I am certain you know, that I know, some perhaps, but far from most know of the 928 Project book...fewer have even read it! If more had read or knew about the book about the 928's development, a thread like this would never beg the questions and then the many incorrect answers.

I've read Project 928 cover-to-cover several times over the years and own a sizable amount of 928 literature junk... there's not alot that I don't have regarding this Porsche (but I think you knew that too). However, I unfortunately don't have a leather bound case for my copy of the 928's story in my collection of memorabilia. As I mentioned earlier it resides in the original box from Porsche with the original part number on the front of the box that I am nearly certain nobody but me on this list can recite.
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For one, I don't consider the fuel injection system, brakes, or CV axles to be a minor component. I can take the FI head/pump/valves out of a MB 450, along with the injectors, and one of the various WURs and make it work in the 928. The spider is certainly 928 specific, but the rest of the FI is bone stock Bosch. I can take an axle off a 1981 Ferrari Mondial and put it in the early 928 and it'll work just fine.
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I currently have 10 copies - some signed by the man himself.
Some are in the special Paul Champagne covers and one is in the special edition Paul Champagne Leather cover #3 of 25.
One copy in the original white cardboard box from Porsche.
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Hell, Porsche didn't even mold their own tires out of rubber grown in the Black Forrest. Lame...
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Originally Posted by ROG100
928 Development Story
W74-788-2011

I stand corrected... I am not the only one who knows the part number.
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Originally Posted by ROG100
I currently have 10 copies - some signed by the man himself.

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Well it's clear to me now, though I sort of suspected it before I started this thread, that the 928 is the most "Porsche" Porsche that Porsche ever made and will probably ever make again.
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I would say more..that their approach and thinking what totally ground up, clean slate. THIS was the hard part.

But...I would not attach the engineering that level of effort. No. Every manufacturer cribs from the experiences of the others and the past.
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Project 928: The 928 Development Story may be found at this link for your reading pleasure-- https://issuu.com/pawikander/docs/project_928

Thanks for the link! This will make for some great nighttime reading this week.
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And here I thought it was the bastard lovechild of a Lamborghini Miura and an AMC Pacer.
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This has the making of a top 10 thread of the year if Lart discovers it.
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There is nothing unique or original about the 928 engineering..... it had all been done before. They did however do a great job with the styling.....even if it does resemble an AMC Pacer from certain angles

And the 911 was far removed from being a 356 derivative, they have little in common, few interchangeable parts. It is also a candidate for most Porsche of the Porsches...
One interesting design was the Porsche designed Studebaker sedan which never saw production as it was too unconventional and Studebaker was nearly bankrupt.
One of the most important designs for Porsche was their synchronizer, yes the Porsche style as used in the 356, 911, and the 78-84 928 the ones which get bad mouthed so much on this forum. That synchronizer was licensed to many other European auto makers and royalties from that helped sustain Porsche for many, many years as they struggled to sell cars.

Project 928 is an interesting read lots of good information they make it very clear that the 928 was built on an assembly line.


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