Is the 928 100% a Porsche design?
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The nearly five plus years of development of the 928 was, at the time, revolutionary and the costs to bring it to production were an absolutely staggering undertaking for any automobile manufacturer. Such ownership of the engineering and development largely contributed to the Porsche 928 being the first sports car ever to win Car of The Year at the Geneva Auto Show.
Read the book on the development if you really want gain the best understanding of how complex and purpose built design engineering went into this car... it is purely astonishing at how much Porsche wanted this to be their own and reflective of no others.
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I guarantee you Mogan was putting a piece of wood over their fuse boxes decades before the 928 came out
Most of us are fully aware of the Project 928 book, some of us even have a custom leather case for it:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...or-s-case.html
Most of us are fully aware of the Project 928 book, some of us even have a custom leather case for it:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...or-s-case.html
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I guarantee you Mogan was putting a piece of wood over their fuse boxes decades before the 928 came out
Most of us are fully aware of the Project 928 book, some of us even have a custom leather case for it:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...or-s-case.html
Most of us are fully aware of the Project 928 book, some of us even have a custom leather case for it:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...or-s-case.html
Hack I am certain you know, that I know, some perhaps, but far from most know of the 928 Project book...fewer have even read it! If more had read or knew about the book about the 928's development, a thread like this would never beg the questions and then the many incorrect answers.
I've read Project 928 cover-to-cover several times over the years and own a sizable amount of 928 literature junk... there's not alot that I don't have regarding this Porsche (but I think you knew that too). However, I unfortunately don't have a leather bound case for my copy of the 928's story in my collection of memorabilia. As I mentioned earlier it resides in the original box from Porsche with the original part number on the front of the box that I am nearly certain nobody but me on this list can recite.
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928 Development Story
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
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For one, I don't consider the fuel injection system, brakes, or CV axles to be a minor component. I can take the FI head/pump/valves out of a MB 450, along with the injectors, and one of the various WURs and make it work in the 928. The spider is certainly 928 specific, but the rest of the FI is bone stock Bosch. I can take an axle off a 1981 Ferrari Mondial and put it in the early 928 and it'll work just fine.
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I currently have 10 copies - some signed by the man himself.
Some are in the special Paul Champagne covers and one is in the special edition Paul Champagne Leather cover #3 of 25.
One copy in the original white cardboard box from Porsche.
Some are in the special Paul Champagne covers and one is in the special edition Paul Champagne Leather cover #3 of 25.
One copy in the original white cardboard box from Porsche.
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Hell, Porsche didn't even mold their own tires out of rubber grown in the Black Forrest. Lame...
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Well it's clear to me now, though I sort of suspected it before I started this thread, that the 928 is the most "Porsche" Porsche that Porsche ever made and will probably ever make again.
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I would say more..that their approach and thinking what totally ground up, clean slate. THIS was the hard part.
But...I would not attach the engineering that level of effort. No. Every manufacturer cribs from the experiences of the others and the past.
But...I would not attach the engineering that level of effort. No. Every manufacturer cribs from the experiences of the others and the past.
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Project 928: The 928 Development Story may be found at this link for your reading pleasure-- https://issuu.com/pawikander/docs/project_928
Thanks for the link! This will make for some great nighttime reading this week.
Thanks for the link! This will make for some great nighttime reading this week.
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This has the making of a top 10 thread of the year if Lart discovers it.
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There is nothing unique or original about the 928 engineering..... it had all been done before. They did however do a great job with the styling.....even if it does resemble an AMC Pacer from certain angles
And the 911 was far removed from being a 356 derivative, they have little in common, few interchangeable parts. It is also a candidate for most Porsche of the Porsches...
One interesting design was the Porsche designed Studebaker sedan which never saw production as it was too unconventional and Studebaker was nearly bankrupt.
One of the most important designs for Porsche was their synchronizer, yes the Porsche style as used in the 356, 911, and the 78-84 928 the ones which get bad mouthed so much on this forum. That synchronizer was licensed to many other European auto makers and royalties from that helped sustain Porsche for many, many years as they struggled to sell cars.
Project 928 is an interesting read lots of good information they make it very clear that the 928 was built on an assembly line.
And the 911 was far removed from being a 356 derivative, they have little in common, few interchangeable parts. It is also a candidate for most Porsche of the Porsches...
One interesting design was the Porsche designed Studebaker sedan which never saw production as it was too unconventional and Studebaker was nearly bankrupt.
One of the most important designs for Porsche was their synchronizer, yes the Porsche style as used in the 356, 911, and the 78-84 928 the ones which get bad mouthed so much on this forum. That synchronizer was licensed to many other European auto makers and royalties from that helped sustain Porsche for many, many years as they struggled to sell cars.
Project 928 is an interesting read lots of good information they make it very clear that the 928 was built on an assembly line.