The engine to Y pipe coolant hose has failed 4 times, just popped off again!
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Powder coating of the water bridge can make it hard to get hoses under pressure to seal. But, that hose - if it's the one I'm thinking of - is rarely the problem. It's usually the big hoses that go to the radiator.
All the other likely culprits: old hose, 'finger trouble', wrong hose clamp seem to have been ruled out. It's just ridiculously unlikely that both Greg and another shop, as a group, would over-look or mess-up these obvious things.
I wonder, also, if this new hose has simply been mis-manufactured and is too big. It seems - from reading - as if the replacement of that specific hose is what started all this. If I recall correctly the ID of the hose is different at either end. I have to wonder if perhaps this fact was over-looked when this batch of hoses was made? You could certainly install the hose 'backward' but that seems highly unlikely.
#17
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was the cooling system ever contaminated with oil?.
If so then any rubber in the cooling system will absorb this oil and then become soft and slippery any hoses that appear to be slippery should be removed from service/.
NOTE if the system was contaminated with oil,
then running some water and tide for a an hour should break the oil deposits from the system.
Then replace the hoses,
NOTE the hose may look perfect on the outside,
its the oil thats has been absorbed that you cant see.
All 3 outlets on the WB have some type of protrusion to hold the hose,
NOTE if the outlets are coated in powder coating then this will cause the hose to slide once the pressure is built up and the hose will slide off.
Remedy get some 220 grit paper and abrade all 3 of the outlets,
clean the inner areas of the hoses after you have washed them with simple green and hot water, inspect the inner hose areas for protrusion damage.
If so then any rubber in the cooling system will absorb this oil and then become soft and slippery any hoses that appear to be slippery should be removed from service/.
NOTE if the system was contaminated with oil,
then running some water and tide for a an hour should break the oil deposits from the system.
Then replace the hoses,
NOTE the hose may look perfect on the outside,
its the oil thats has been absorbed that you cant see.
All 3 outlets on the WB have some type of protrusion to hold the hose,
NOTE if the outlets are coated in powder coating then this will cause the hose to slide once the pressure is built up and the hose will slide off.
Remedy get some 220 grit paper and abrade all 3 of the outlets,
clean the inner areas of the hoses after you have washed them with simple green and hot water, inspect the inner hose areas for protrusion damage.
#18
Former Vendor
First off let me say thanks for all the insights.
Greg you and Bob must have had a failure to communicate but the problem is at the water bridge, not the Y pipe.
Yes the unit has been powder coated. I'm told removing this or roughing up the surface is the next plan of attack in conjunction with 2 hose clamps. I guess that leaves me wondering why no problem for 1000+ miles then new hose new WP new clamps = repeated failures?
Sorry the car is at the Indy so can't get photos at this time.
This really makes me wonder, how is this hose clamp failing at such a low PSI?
Greg you and Bob must have had a failure to communicate but the problem is at the water bridge, not the Y pipe.
Yes the unit has been powder coated. I'm told removing this or roughing up the surface is the next plan of attack in conjunction with 2 hose clamps. I guess that leaves me wondering why no problem for 1000+ miles then new hose new WP new clamps = repeated failures?
Sorry the car is at the Indy so can't get photos at this time.
This really makes me wonder, how is this hose clamp failing at such a low PSI?
I never powder coat water crossovers, figuring that hose retainment is going to be an issue on that super slick surface, so I've not got many suggestions on how to fix this, other than removing the powder coating.
New hoses are soft and supple...crushing easy when tightening. Old hoses get hard and brittle, but do not deflect as much, when tightening....thus absorbing more clamping force. I try to not randomly change hoses, because of this...but have little choice when the hose is bulged.