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Old 09-30-2015, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
No. It still operates, so it is not yet broken. Once the crack finishes growing, and prevents the lock from operating, it will then, be officially broken. I've since purchased a brand new lock w/o electric latch, key, grommet, bolts, and washers. I've also, since posting, welded the crack and now have a original electric (which I will save) and a manual latch which is being installed.
We should be clear about the function - that's what I have been trying to get over.

There is no electric opener upper hatch latch - no such thing ever existed. There is a non-alarm upper latch mechanism and an alarm upper latch mechanism. They have nothing really to do with the manual Vs electric hatch opener because you can have all combinations:

- Non-alarm manual only hatch opener
- Non-alarm remote electric hatch opener
- Alarm manual only hatch opener
- Alarm remote electric hatch opener

Worry about the alarm hatch upper only if you have a functional alarm - and even then you could live without it and still have a hatch protected by the alarm (just not switched by the hatch key).

If you don't have a functional alarm then an alarm upper hatch latch has no value to you over the non-alarm version - it performs no other function - except perhaps to break more easily...

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Old 09-30-2015, 08:16 AM
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Will keep that in mind, Hacker. Thank you.
Old 09-30-2015, 08:21 AM
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My reference to "electric latch" is meant to describe the cylinder with the three wires running from it. We are clear on that those wires actuate the alarm, correct? The hatch release operates on what part of the mechanism?
Old 09-30-2015, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
Someone must be bored. this is the kind of infantile exchange that drives people away from grown people forums.
Grown up people forums?

Where in God's name do you find those?
Old 09-30-2015, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
Inversely, your brain might not be broken, yet it still might not work.
Do I belong now?
Looks like you are not a "member" so I really don't know if you "belong now" or not. Aside from that measure of anyone, which I have seen apply from time to time, I don't think anyone on this forum is measured by how tall they are, their religion or politics, their ethnic backgound or color or their national origin, but only perhaps by their level of intelligence and credibility, and that based solely on what they have to say and how they might say it.

Hypothetically speaking, If someone were trying to sell me their 928 and told me that they knew ever square inch of it and that "nothing is broken" then upon my inspection I find the hatch latch male component in the condition your's is obviously in, I would conclude that they are either a liar or stupid, or maybe even both.

But that is probably just me "being Jerry."
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
My reference to "electric latch" is meant to describe the cylinder with the three wires running from it. We are clear on that those wires actuate the alarm, correct? The hatch release operates on what part of the mechanism?
Yes the 3 wires are only for the alarm (so let's call it alarm upper 'whatever' and non-alarm upper 'whatever' for clarity).

For the hatch lock - only the lower receiver is different between electric remote pull release and manual (key) only release for the hatch. The electric remote release only works if a door is open (safety interlock), so for that the alarm has to already be disarmed (at least in any normal case) - so no need for any interaction with the alarm state when opening.

The lower remote release receiver has a cam operated by the (separate) hatch release motor - this allows the upper latching tang to be depressed past the latch plate to allow release. Otherwise the only other function of the receiver is the hatch open switch integrated into the bottom, this is present on both types - this is how the alarm and interior lights know the hatch is open.

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Old 10-01-2015, 07:26 PM
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Thank you, Alan. This is exactly what I would expect from a forum of individuals (who are not judged by anything but their contributions) that endeavor to help others.
As for Jerry, if you read the posts and could manage to get out of your own head for a minute, my latch is no longer broken (as you put it) as I welded it (and HEREBY OFFER THAT SAME SERVICE TO ANYONE AT NO COST). No-body in my house is trying to sell you anything, by the way. The belong I referred to is the "say stupid sh t and try to get a rise because I'm bored club" of which you obviously belong.
Step away from the keyboard, take a ride in your 928, go home, take your meds, and get a good nights sleep.



By the way, for all of you that have the broken pot metal latch problem, SERIOUSLY, I had a stack of welding rods I picked up in Kentucky back in 97 and have used them from time to time. I dont remember their compound, but it works wonders on a variety of metals and especially pot metals. I will do a repair free of charge if you need it and choose to send the part to me.
On another note, I have two blue consoles, some hatch interior panels and assorted other items (as well as the tan quarter panel covers) available to those that might want/need them.

Alan, again, Thank you as you answered my question in a VERY MATURE FASHION.
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My top piece is also cracked same as the OP described.
I don't consider it "broken", but more as it is in a transitional phase of operation.
Old 10-01-2015, 08:49 PM
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Humor we all have....but different.
Nice to know the upper piece can be welded tho for other to try and save.
Cracked, worn, fractured, damaged, bent are all usable to a point before it breaks but also can be defined as broken?
I replaced mine with a non-alarm and still kept my "broken" one in my " cracked, worn, fractured and damaged pile"
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Transitional is a better definition. +1
If you guys need them repaired, let me know!



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