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Why is Brett "mental"?
Seems like a nice guy ; got some prize money , gives money to charity , has fun , isn't trying to sell anything.
http://www.southernporscheclub.co.uk/news
Seems like a nice guy ; got some prize money , gives money to charity , has fun , isn't trying to sell anything.
http://www.southernporscheclub.co.uk/news
BIG BIG BIG Boasts, with Zero evidence to back it up. he has some "magic" controller for his nitrous system that adds "1 hp" at a time, as not to hurt the engine and thats how he gets 2000 pixie dust horse power on a bone stock 16v. a few called him out on some Facebook posts asking for proof of said cars performance, like from a sanctioned race body or a dyno shop. he could not. we even offered to pony up the cash for it to go to a dyno in england, because if he is making that much power with what he has, it should be shared with the whole world, "i can't. there is not a dyno in england that can handle the massive power"... he has lied for so long id say he actually believes it him self now.
Originally Posted by Ducman82
lets see if i can sum it up.
BIG BIG BIG Boasts, with Zero evidence to back it up. he has some "magic" controller for his nitrous system that adds "1 hp" at a time, as not to hurt the engine and thats how he gets 2000 pixie dust horse power on a bone stock 16v. a few called him out on some Facebook posts asking for proof of said cars performance, like from a sanctioned race body or a dyno shop. he could not. we even offered to pony up the cash for it to go to a dyno in england, because if he is making that much power with what he has, it should be shared with the whole world, "i can't. there is not a dyno in england that can handle the massive power"... he has lied for so long id say he actually believes it him self now.
BIG BIG BIG Boasts, with Zero evidence to back it up. he has some "magic" controller for his nitrous system that adds "1 hp" at a time, as not to hurt the engine and thats how he gets 2000 pixie dust horse power on a bone stock 16v. a few called him out on some Facebook posts asking for proof of said cars performance, like from a sanctioned race body or a dyno shop. he could not. we even offered to pony up the cash for it to go to a dyno in england, because if he is making that much power with what he has, it should be shared with the whole world, "i can't. there is not a dyno in england that can handle the massive power"... he has lied for so long id say he actually believes it him self now.
He keeps insisting that it's a record holder and more unfounded claims. I gave up. B
He admits 550hp on a dyno way back when , and from my interpretation 2000hp potential. Notwithstanding the engine might last 2 seconds. Porsche got 485hp from the lowly 924, but not exactly reliably!
HP potential is akin to Borat singing "Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world".
Brett might just be winding you guys up.
HP potential is akin to Borat singing "Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world".
Brett might just be winding you guys up.
Ah, funny 'ol Brett ..... I seem to remember a pic years ago showing much of the under bonnet (hood) NOS hardware connected with pink and orange zip ties which gave everyone a *lot* of amusement at the time.....
Brett even received a lot of "digs" on the NOS forums too, I noticed them when I first was researching my setup.
My biggest "really?" flag to his HP statements were that he didn't do ANYthing to his engine and it all held /holds together.
I do know that when you start adding HP (Turbo/ SC / N2O), you need to start with fresh Head gaskets and everything else must be up to spec, else the increase in power will find the weakest part and cars with 20 or more year's on them have a boat load of weak links
N2O is just another way to burn more fuel, and its adding more fuel that make the HP, not the N2O.
Keep the knock under control(pull spark advance out), and keep the AFR a bit on the rich side under WOT and all is happy, same as a Turbo or SC.
Dave
PS: my Blue (N2O) car took 1st place in class yesterday at our SEM PCA concourse and picnic
My biggest "really?" flag to his HP statements were that he didn't do ANYthing to his engine and it all held /holds together.
I do know that when you start adding HP (Turbo/ SC / N2O), you need to start with fresh Head gaskets and everything else must be up to spec, else the increase in power will find the weakest part and cars with 20 or more year's on them have a boat load of weak links

N2O is just another way to burn more fuel, and its adding more fuel that make the HP, not the N2O.
Keep the knock under control(pull spark advance out), and keep the AFR a bit on the rich side under WOT and all is happy, same as a Turbo or SC.
Dave
PS: my Blue (N2O) car took 1st place in class yesterday at our SEM PCA concourse and picnic
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Nitrous is for dentists!
As Imre stated I had a 75 (or maybe 100) wet shot on my old 82 928. It was a hoot. Got tired of filling the bottle, so I went to the dark side - bought '91 GT, put a blower on it, then put a bigger blower on it. Thing makes about 6 bazillion horsepowers now. When I fire it up and if i do a full launch heading due east or due west, they actually have to adjust the atomic clock because the massive torques that my car produces actually causes the rotation of the earth to change sightly.
There are no dynos that can handle my 928, but using this simple equation I was able to deduce that it probably is around 6 bazillion HP:

As the Earth has a period of about 23.93 hours, it has an angular velocity of 7.29×10−5 rad/s. The Earth has a moment of inertia, I = 8.04×1037 kg·m2.[1] Therefore, it has a rotational kinetic energy of 2.138×1029 J.
Since the last time I did a launch, the US Naval Observatory in D.C. confirmed that the period changed from 23.93 hours to 23.92222222222222222229 hours -- basically, 1.0 x 10^-15 hours.
If we carry the 1 and factor leap year into things, oh... I forgot, this was done on a Sunday, and as we all know that is statistically the slowest day of the Gregorian calendar, so after we make that adjustment, it's pure arithmetic that any 2nd grader can do, we get (31,512 x 10^|g|^23.8)/5,252, or a bout 6 bazilllion horse powers at 5250 RPMs.
Now, you just can't argue with results like that! So go ahead and put some weakly NOZ system on there if you want. But if you want to change the course of humanity, put a blower on there and hang on for what could be the ride of your life... or death.
Coincidentally, this all happened right about the time global warming really started becoming a concern, so sorry 'bout that. My bad.
As Imre stated I had a 75 (or maybe 100) wet shot on my old 82 928. It was a hoot. Got tired of filling the bottle, so I went to the dark side - bought '91 GT, put a blower on it, then put a bigger blower on it. Thing makes about 6 bazillion horsepowers now. When I fire it up and if i do a full launch heading due east or due west, they actually have to adjust the atomic clock because the massive torques that my car produces actually causes the rotation of the earth to change sightly.
There are no dynos that can handle my 928, but using this simple equation I was able to deduce that it probably is around 6 bazillion HP:

As the Earth has a period of about 23.93 hours, it has an angular velocity of 7.29×10−5 rad/s. The Earth has a moment of inertia, I = 8.04×1037 kg·m2.[1] Therefore, it has a rotational kinetic energy of 2.138×1029 J.
Since the last time I did a launch, the US Naval Observatory in D.C. confirmed that the period changed from 23.93 hours to 23.92222222222222222229 hours -- basically, 1.0 x 10^-15 hours.
If we carry the 1 and factor leap year into things, oh... I forgot, this was done on a Sunday, and as we all know that is statistically the slowest day of the Gregorian calendar, so after we make that adjustment, it's pure arithmetic that any 2nd grader can do, we get (31,512 x 10^|g|^23.8)/5,252, or a bout 6 bazilllion horse powers at 5250 RPMs.
Now, you just can't argue with results like that! So go ahead and put some weakly NOZ system on there if you want. But if you want to change the course of humanity, put a blower on there and hang on for what could be the ride of your life... or death.
Coincidentally, this all happened right about the time global warming really started becoming a concern, so sorry 'bout that. My bad.
I have a lot of experience with NOS and the 928 at moderate, and more reasonable power levels.
there is much mis-understanding of NOS, and its pretty simple... add more air and fuel, get more power.. (but keep the ratios at 12:1 or so ) Plus, NOS is very cold, and tends to reduce Knock and creates a very good burn characteristic as well as other positives that Nitrogen in the gas can create.
i used 50hp and 75hp shots ( wet system, meaning, fuel and NOS were added external to the engine at the intake plennum.
I did lots of dyno runs and verified the results
the engine was used at the track, IN races for a few years and even when it was pulled for the larger 5 liter engine, it showed no signs of any issues at all.
I used Nitrous Express fittings.
I had a custom actuation system , that made sure i didnt add NOS unless i was WOT...... a WOT switch will do this, but i wanted to make sure it only activated it when I wanted it to be activate.. (i.e. long straights at the race track)
in the end, it lasted 10 full laps of a 25-30min race using a 10lb bottle. the switch was on the dead pedal, so i would push that, when the clutch was released and i knew i was full throttle .. very intuitive and no chance of mistakes as push buttons on the steering wheel can have.
there is much mis-understanding of NOS, and its pretty simple... add more air and fuel, get more power.. (but keep the ratios at 12:1 or so ) Plus, NOS is very cold, and tends to reduce Knock and creates a very good burn characteristic as well as other positives that Nitrogen in the gas can create.
i used 50hp and 75hp shots ( wet system, meaning, fuel and NOS were added external to the engine at the intake plennum.
I did lots of dyno runs and verified the results
the engine was used at the track, IN races for a few years and even when it was pulled for the larger 5 liter engine, it showed no signs of any issues at all.
I used Nitrous Express fittings.
I had a custom actuation system , that made sure i didnt add NOS unless i was WOT...... a WOT switch will do this, but i wanted to make sure it only activated it when I wanted it to be activate.. (i.e. long straights at the race track)
in the end, it lasted 10 full laps of a 25-30min race using a 10lb bottle. the switch was on the dead pedal, so i would push that, when the clutch was released and i knew i was full throttle .. very intuitive and no chance of mistakes as push buttons on the steering wheel can have.
And if you do not want to fiddle with a switch, you can use a N2O Computer NX (Nitrous Express) units can directly read the stock 928 WOT switch and RPM signals and you program the amount and at what RPM at WOT to start spraying.
I's worth the extra $400 bucks not to have to press anything except the Go peddle!
AO, so what did that bazillion HP ending up costing you on the GT to gain the extra bazillion earth turning HP?
Also noticed you didn't line up next to me yesterday w/ your SC'ed Euro
I's worth the extra $400 bucks not to have to press anything except the Go peddle!

AO, so what did that bazillion HP ending up costing you on the GT to gain the extra bazillion earth turning HP?
Also noticed you didn't line up next to me yesterday w/ your SC'ed Euro
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Also noticed you didn't line up next to me yesterday w/ your SC'ed Euro





