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Old 11-09-2019, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by worf928
If you've ever had to drill-out one of the stock small-and-shallow head pinch bolts because the last guy didn't replace an almost-rounded-out one, you come to appreciate the 'normal-head-size' 12.9-grade Alan socket bolts that can be 'locally obtained.'

But, yes, 12.9 is the grade of steel. Grade 10 shalt thou not use, neither use thou grade 8. Thou should not browse grade 8 or grade 10 bolts, lest thou immediately thereafter browse from the grade 12.9 bin. Once a grade 12.9 bolt is selected then hand thou the bolt towards thy cashier, who if being not naughty shall charge you for it.
Thou shalt not believe everything stamped 12.9 is 12.9 if it came from China.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FredR
Thou shalt not believe everything stamped 12.9 is 12.9 if it came from China.
This is d@mn true.

Do you *know* that a Porsche Pinch Bolt you order from <insert vendor> is not made in China?

The quality of new fasteners from Porsche for both ‘classic’ parts and those found on their newer cars is pretty awful as compared to the OE stuff that shipped on our 928s

PooPoo a locally-acquired grade 12 bolt all you want but check the composition and transparency of your abode too.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by worf928
This is d@mn true.

Do you *know* that a Porsche Pinch Bolt you order from <insert vendor> is not made in China?

The quality of new fasteners from Porsche for both ‘classic’ parts and those found on their newer cars is pretty awful as compared to the OE stuff that shipped on our 928s

PooPoo a locally-acquired grade 12 bolt all you want but check the composition and transparency of your abode too.
Locally acquired stuff made in your country I am sure will be just fine. Nowadays so much comes from China you really have to know the integrity of the source you are purchasing from. Got mine from Roger- no issues. No idea where his supply chain emanates from - all I can say is that all the stuff he has supplied has seemingly been spot on be it original or after market. So many steel plants have closed down in the USA one wonders just how many are actually left and that before considering whether European specification materials play a part.

In the oil sector once one departs from recognised suppliers it is quite astonishing what one sees. We had a contractor who took a short cut and did not stick with our approved vendors list. He had some difficulty with some piping components he was welding. We asked for a copy of the material test certs and somewhat astonishingly the recorded yield strength was greater than the UTS! We rejected the entire job lot- cost the contractor a bundle.
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
access for the auto is hidden under the heat shields for the resonators ,
so you can move the heat shields away from the mounted position and get to the rear pinch bolt.

that said if the MMs are good, then you may not have the room to do this as the pipes will be closer to the shields thus requiring to drop out the rear pipes to gain clearance
Mr. Merlin...for the automatic how can I rotate it to have access to bolt to tighten it? On the flex plate I turned the flywheel clockwise and I had access. Do I have to do the same then go back to the rear to view?
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turn the crank bolt CW while looking at the front of the engine ,
use a good flashlight to see inside the opening to the rear pinch bolt,
then figure out how much to turn the bolt.

NOTE if you have an issue with a bolt not coming loose,
you can use a 1/2 inch drive air gun to remove the bolt or atleasat loosen it.
If this is done then the bolt will have to be replaced.
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
turn the crank bolt CW while looking at the front of the engine ,
use a good flashlight to see inside the opening to the rear pinch bolt,
then figure out how much to turn the bolt.

NOTE if you have an issue with a bolt not coming loose,
you can use a 1/2 inch drive air gun to remove the bolt or atleasat loosen it.
If this is done then the bolt will have to be replaced.
makes sense. Thanks
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:40 PM
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I'm very glad this thread keeps popping up because it's helping people. It's the single thread that has pissed me off enough to sorta stop posting technical advice here on Rennlist which does no one any good I suppose.
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Don't stop!

I remembered this thread while doing my clutch. The rear bolts weren't loose, but they sure as hell were not still at factory torque either. Replaced...
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Originally Posted by SeanR
I'm very glad this thread keeps popping up because it's helping people. It's the single thread that has pissed me off enough to sorta stop posting technical advice here on Rennlist which does no one any good I suppose.
It helped me. I'm just curious as to why you stop posting such technical advice?
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Originally Posted by frugal928
It helped me. I'm just curious as to why you stop posting such technical advice?
I’m not Sean, but here’s my guess:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post12369311
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I checked my bolt and there was no scarring or stretching of the bolt. I put a new bolt in with some blue locktite and torque it to 66ft lbs.
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