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Old 06-17-2015, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Except..to replace the adjusters..im still pulling the shocks..

Why do I expect a fair amount of energy to be released, if I cut a compressed spring?

Why do I also not think that the new 'end' of the spring would then sit in to the seat correctly if I did it that way...
why is everything i have done successfully, being questioned?
that's fine, i like questions and the challenges, so let me just say, the end that you cut, fits perfectly into the adjuster. cutting the spring, i used a couple of clamps to relieve some of the pressure when the spring coil is cut. lt made a weak thump as we cut through the coil . you need two cuts to remove the piece.
this way, you can lower the car, might have a good chance that the height might be good. and if it doesnt, you have a stiffer spring you can use with the new shock adjusters for fine tuning ride height.
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I've known this to happen when the mechanic forces the lower arm down to get the shock out. He's turned the lower link bushes out of their range, and they dont come back unless you loosen the caps for a moment and then re-tighten.

The answer is to loosen the 4 bolts that hold the lower link caps on, and get the vehicle on its tires. Usually just one full turn will be enough. Bounce the vehicle to settle the lower arm back where it used to be, then tighten the caps to spec. IF thats what the problem was, the ride height will be within range again. If that doesn't help, no harm done. Try it.
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
why is everything i have done successfully, being questioned?
Victim syndrome I'm sure, but I haven't questioned "why" at all...just asking what should I expect.
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
i used a couple of clamps to relieve some of the pressure when the spring coil is cut. lt made a weak thump as we cut through the coil

See, that was my question on 'how' not 'why'.

See, you're not a victim after all.
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Originally Posted by Carl Fausett
I've known this to happen when the mechanic forces the lower arm down to get the shock out. He's turned the lower link bushes out of their range, and they dont come back unless you loosen the caps for a moment and then re-tighten.

The answer is to loosen the 4 bolts that hold the lower link caps on, and get the vehicle on its tires. Usually just one full turn will be enough. Bounce the vehicle to settle the lower arm back where it used to be, then tighten the caps to spec. IF thats what the problem was, the ride height will be within range again. If that doesn't help, no harm done. Try it.
LCA was down via the caps, and tighted via the WSM procedure.

Hey..you have a tool to adjust koni struts I hear?
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Just talked to roger, he says "drive it"

I have done no wrong that he can tell, perch height on all shocks is the same. So..Ill do that.
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I thought it was improbable.

Impossible.

But..a 65mil hard mountain drive brought the drivers side down to 2 fingers high from the tire, and pass side to 3 fingers.

It was 2 -fists- high. Ive had em sit high, but..wow.


Problem..solved.

But, it's still coming apart again next week for new adjusters.
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interesting to say the least.... sorry about all the misinformation Roger nailed this one !!
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
interesting to say the least.... sorry about all the misinformation Roger nailed this one !!
Nah..its fine. I was forced to look things up in the WSM I hadn't looked at before.


The shock perches are all the same, the shorter springs are on the later cars to make up the space for the adjusters. Thats..it.
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Seriously? It dropped THAT much?! I work mostly on S4s. Never seen one with this much space after new shocks. Something like 6-8" when we first dropped it even with the LCA loose. You had the car jacked up the previous day to do the rotors. It didn't hang up this high when you lowered it then, did it? Regardless, thanks to Roger.
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Originally Posted by Carl Fausett
I've known this to happen when the mechanic forces the lower arm down to get the shock out. He's turned the lower link bushes out of their range, and they dont come back unless you loosen the caps for a moment and then re-tighten.

The answer is to loosen the 4 bolts that hold the lower link caps on, and get the vehicle on its tires. Usually just one full turn will be enough. Bounce the vehicle to settle the lower arm back where it used to be, then tighten the caps to spec. IF thats what the problem was, the ride height will be within range again. If that doesn't help, no harm done. Try it.
good point
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
See, that was my question on 'how' not 'why'.

See, you're not a victim after all.
haha

glad it came down after the drive.
sorry you have to take it all apart.
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
haha

glad it came down after the drive.
sorry you have to take it all apart.
Ya..no probs. Will use a spring compressor ON the car to help.

The S3 upper A arms are a tad smaller than the S4, so..the way to work them out is a bitch. Compressing the spring in place, I should be able to drop the shock out and leave the spring in place...I think.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Ya..no probs. Will use a spring compressor ON the car to help.

The S3 upper A arms are a tad smaller than the S4, so..the way to work them out is a bitch. Compressing the spring in place, I should be able to drop the shock out and leave the spring in place...I think.
just too bad they didnt make more room in there to get stuff in an out without tearing the suspension apart. even with the racing stuff, its a pain. other cars can change out springs at the track, like on our rears, but up front. forget about it!
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when i removed these Konis from my car, and then installed new Sachs/Boges, I did not change the adjuster position. and had no change in the front height.

it would always sit up high at first, some pushing and bouncing of the front would settle it.

did you push in all the way, the piston, and turn them? that is how you adjust these.


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