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Old 06-12-2015 | 10:12 PM
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Has anyone out there cobbled up a flywheel locking tool that is not factory store bought? If so, how did you do it?
Old 06-13-2015 | 02:03 AM
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I think I remember reading somewhere in a post someone has made one, but I couldn't say where to look.
If you have seen the actual tool, a functional copy would not be too difficult to make.
I have an idea for a home made version, but have not had spare time to begin work on it yet.
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Is your car a five speed ??
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
Has anyone out there cobbled up a flywheel locking tool that is not factory store bought? If so, how did you do it?
what are you doing, just tighting up the crank bolt?
Old 06-13-2015 | 05:35 AM
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What year car? I have one for a 84...and you could borrow it if you like. I'll send it to you, as long as you send it back. But be warned...if you don't...the man hunt will be similar to the one going on now for the escaped inmates.

Let me know if you are interested...and I was joking about the man hunt (maybe).

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Just noticed in your other topic where you mentioned you're a marksman...so, I've already went ahead and cancelled the man hunt...at least my part in being involved...lol.

Also, did I read where your car is a stick...if so...just put it in gear and set the parking brake, and then remove the harmonic balancer bolt. Just make sure nothing has moved in the process before pulling the balancer.

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Buy the factory tool for $53 (my price) - same price 77-82 & 83-95 - use it then sell it on eBay for $70.

We also have the "dual" lock that fits all cars 77 to 95 for $66.
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What Roger Said.

I have them for the 928's and my Volvos', there are places were effort is a good substitute for money, I recall an accessory belt tool from Volvo that I did in 20m. There are other times when it just isn't worth.

With the critical alignment and the torque that it has to withstand the flywheel lock is in the latter.

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im still wondering if he wants the locking tool for the timing alignment, which you don't need, or to torque the crank bolt and there are a few different ways to do that without it.
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What Roger Said.

I have them for the 928's and my Volvos', there are places were effort is a good substitute for money, I recall an accessory belt tool from Volvo that I did in 20m. There are other times when it just isn't worth.

With the critical alignment and the torque that it has to withstand the flywheel lock is in the latter.

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there is nothing critical to align with the flywheel lock. nothing will move enough to be a problem when timing the belt, and adjusting the valves you are moving the flywheel around, so the only real purpose is to break the crank bolt free. tightening , is pretty easy without it.
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Walt has his own method of doing things. Get a big essed flat head screw driver. Jam it between the flywheel teeth and turn the crank til it binds against the bell housing enough to hold the flat head in place. Then use some vice grips to hold it in place for added security. Then . . . Jeeesus, somebody give him the tool.

He could get it as a loaner from 928OC, but I'm betting he won't join, cuz like Groucho, he wouldn't belong to any club that would have him.

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if you are just tightening the crank bolt, get it all together.. adjusted, etc... then, put it in 5th gear, apply brakes and apply the near, 200ftlbs on the torque wrench....DONE .... half the force of flooring it at 3500rpm.

breaking it loose, I would use another method of flywheel lock. that's the only real need for the tool.
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Wow, Steve. I was thinking of cutting up a piece of oak into a wedge and tapping it into the starter hole and against the flywheel so that the torque would tighten it. The big screwdriver thing is for butchers. You would probably be surprised at my engineering skill. I actually wrote my own patents.... Anyway.....
It's a 84 five speed and the reason I ask is to glean some tips from you guys that have been working on 928s for a while, not be criticized as if I'm an idiot. And right now, I've run out of " sense of humor", sorry.
I need it to break the balancer bolt and have tried putting it in gear with the front on blocks and the rear on the ground and chocked. The car still wants to move and I need the flywheel locked solid. I looked in my manual and it shows two different styles with the 84 unit having the locking teeth rotated on the base plate. When I look online (not Roger yet) I see the squared teeth unit sold for a 84 and I don't want to buy the wrong one.
Deputy, I will take you up on your offer. Do you need any particular parts that I can send you for compensation when I return your tool?

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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
Wow, Steve. I was thinking of cutting up a piece of oak into a wedge and tapping it into the starter hole and against the flywheel so that the torque would tighten it. The big screwdriver thing is for butchers. You would probably be surprised at my engineering skill. I actually wrote my own patents.... Anyway.....
It's a 84 five speed and the reason I ask is to glean some tips from you guys that have been working on 928s for a while, not be criticized as if I'm an idiot. And right now, I've run out of " sense of humor", sorry.
I need it to break the balancer bolt and have tried putting it in gear with the front on blocks and the rear on the ground and chocked. The car still wants to move and I need the flywheel locked solid. I looked in my manual and it shows two different styles with the 84 unit having the locking teeth rotated on the base plate. When I look online (not Roger yet) I see the squared teeth unit sold for a 84 and I don't want to buy the wrong one.
Deputy, I will take you up on your offer. Do you need any particular parts that I can send you for compensation when I return your tool?
I understand, and agree.
Although I have no patents, nor an engineering degree, I have stayed at A Holiday Inn Express a time or two.
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Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
Wow, Steve. I was thinking of cutting up a piece of oak into a wedge and tapping it into the starter hole and against the flywheel so that the torque would tighten it. The big screwdriver thing is for butchers. You would probably be surprised at my engineering skill. I actually wrote my own patents.... Anyway.....
It's a 84 five speed and the reason I ask is to glean some tips from you guys that have been working on 928s for a while, not be criticized as if I'm an idiot. And right now, I've run out of " sense of humor", sorry.
I need it to break the balancer bolt and have tried putting it in gear with the front on blocks and the rear on the ground and chocked. The car still wants to move and I need the flywheel locked solid. I looked in my manual and it shows two different styles with the 84 unit having the locking teeth rotated on the base plate. When I look online (not Roger yet) I see the squared teeth unit sold for a 84 and I don't want to buy the wrong one.
Deputy, I will take you up on your offer. Do you need any particular parts that I can send you for compensation when I return your tool?
ok, if you had an automatic, it wouldn't be a solution, but you have a 5 speed.
so, if you are good with "engineering" type things, you can appreciate the logic here. in gear and and chocks on the tires, will do nothing. you need to apply the brakes!!!!!! I don't like loosening with the brakes and in 5th gear . (what gear were you using?) you cant use any other gear but 5th, or you will reduce the effect of the braking. (and you know why , right?)
I don't like loosening, because if its rusted or stuck, you might be able to produce more than 300ftlbs on the system and that might hurt something. just keep in mind, the clutch can hold near 350ftlbs of torque, but not much more. tightening, is no problem.
the wedge of wood, could work in a pinch.


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