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Old 04-29-2015, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
..cuz he was lucky. Don't give credit where sometimes luck and God did all the work.
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The individual driving this 928 did not survive the accident:

http://members.rennlist.com/pageauto...ed895speed.htm
Old 04-30-2015, 09:18 PM
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IMO, it couldn't have been all that wet… In the last photo there are solid skid marks left on the pavement. When it is raining hard, ins't there a total loss of traction and tires slide with a layer of H2O between them and the pavement? Perhaps there is an accident investigator on the board that can give expert commentary on this?

The Armco and the chassis did a great job of dissipating what was obviously a high energy crash.

I have put well over 150,000 miles of driving in my various 928's, and thank goodness never been involved in anything like this (knocking on wood).
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
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The individual driving this 928 did not survive the accident:

http://members.rennlist.com/pageauto...ed895speed.htm
Any story behind this one?
Old 05-01-2015, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by worf928
Why don't you expound upon that?
It is just common sense. I had to look up the meaning of "expound" as my English is quite rudimentary. Would anyone think that the car would look like this if it were traveling 20 or 30 mph before the accident if all other variables were the same?
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteNSXs
It is just common sense. I had to look up the meaning of "expound" as my English is quite rudimentary. Would anyone think that the car would look like this if it were traveling 20 or 30 mph before the accident if all other variables were the same?
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Well, still think just high speed in a straight line should not cause the crash. Something must have brought the car from the straight line. Be it another car's behaviour casing the driver to divert, or perhaps a technical mishap like a blown tyre or uneven braking left/right
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Originally Posted by SeanR
Any story behind this one?
No, sorry.
Friend of mine bought the car at an insurance auction. He found an online news story reporting the driver did not survive. No details on the actual crash.
Old 05-02-2015, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ad0911
Well, still think just high speed in a straight line should not cause the crash. Something must have brought the car from the straight line. Be it another car's behaviour casing the driver to divert, or perhaps a technical mishap like a blown tyre or uneven braking left/right
When was the last time that you drove on a highway that is completely straight without any curves or turns? In my country, ALL the highways have curves, dips, banks and imperfections which all become very unforgiving under high speed. "Something must have brought the car from the straight line"? How about just a perfectly normal highway which CONSTANTLY can bring the car away from a straight line particularly while going too fast? 250 meters of damaged guardrails need quite a bit of kinetic energy to create. I don't see how else a car could destroy such long stretch of guardrails while being shredded in pieces were it not from "just high speed".
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I agree that speed must have been a significant contributor to this crash.

Without speed, an impact would have been unlikely.
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Yes, it's true that at 20-30 mph there would be no damage, but go 30 on the AutoBahn and you get arrested or turned onto a hood ornament. Life at 30 Mph is SO BORING!!! When I was stationed near San Diego, I liked to run Laguina Seca in my '58 NASH METRO. It was really great to wind it up to 57MpH after turn 11...LOL Driving a slow car 'Fast and Hard' can be VERY exciting. 'Speed" is relative. Drive a 928 on the same track and at the same speed as I did, and you fall asleep. (METROs used the same Austin A-50 engine block as Sprites & Midgets. So all the speed goodies for Sprites & Midgets bolted right on.) I found German Police video of an 928 blowing the left front tier at 260KpH! The car went into the grass and came apart as it rolled about 6 times. After the finally flopped on it's belly, a literal steaming hulk, the door opens, the driver gets out and starts kicking the side of the car!!! (I tried to down load it but my browser didn't want to do it.) 3 Cheers for Dr. Porsche's design and Krupp Steel!!
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Originally Posted by STRIKEMASTER
Yes, it's true that at 20-30 mph there would be no damage, but go 30 on the AutoBahn and you get arrested or turned onto a hood ornament. Life at 30 Mph is SO BORING!!! When I was stationed near San Diego, I liked to run Laguina Seca in my '58 NASH METRO. It was really great to wind it up to 57MpH after turn 11...LOL Driving a slow car 'Fast and Hard' can be VERY exciting. 'Speed" is relative. Drive a 928 on the same track and at the same speed as I did, and you fall asleep. (METROs used the same Austin A-50 engine block as Sprites & Midgets. So all the speed goodies for Sprites & Midgets bolted right on.) I found German Police video of an 928 blowing the left front tier at 260KpH! The car went into the grass and came apart as it rolled about 6 times. After the finally flopped on it's belly, a literal steaming hulk, the door opens, the driver gets out and starts kicking the side of the car!!! (I tried to down load it but my browser didn't want to do it.) 3 Cheers for Dr. Porsche's design and Krupp Steel!!
Perhaps you can tell us where to find the video with a link?
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Which reminds me, I need to replace my old(er) tires.
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Seems to me some people are confusing 'speed caused the accident' with 'speed caused the level of damage once there was an accident'. Kinetic energy is proportional to speed ^2, so it rises exponentially.
Inappropriate speed in the conditions MAY have caused the accident, but there are a few unknowns here.

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Originally Posted by jpitman2
Seems to me some people are confusing 'speed caused the accident' with 'speed caused the level of damage once there was an accident'.
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
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The individual driving this 928 did not survive the accident:

http://members.rennlist.com/pageauto...ed895speed.htm
I am guessing he wasn't wearing his belt cause that doesn't look to bad. Mine looks worst then that it buckled in three different spots. I had to kick the door open to get out but I walked away.



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