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Old 01-20-2015, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 928sg
I should probably just keep it all and buy a scrap beater 928 and build it up.... but I haven't even finished the one 928 that I have... some of you guys have 3, 4, 5 or more 928's... lol now that would be torture for me.... all the things I'd want to try next...
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Move to Wisconsin, then you have 5-6 months out of every year just to tinker on the car without all that boring driving getting in the way
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Easy solution:

Move to Wisconsin, then you have 5-6 months out of every year just to tinker on the car without all that boring driving getting in the way
If I did that, I'd end up living in a shack just to have someplace to live so I could sweep the floor in Todd's shop....
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Sterling I would be honored to have the parts in my collection, to be ogled, at special times. If no one wants to buy I will pay you more than scrap value/parts credit or what ever. To display your expertise at 928 events would be way cool. Please do not scrap this piece of 928 history I beg you as a friend.
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Originally Posted by ROG100
Sterling I would be honored to have the parts in my collection, to be ogled, at special times. If no one wants to buy I will pay you more than scrap value/parts credit or what ever. To display your expertise at 928 events would be way cool. Please do not scrap this piece of 928 history I beg you as a friend.
+1 ..and put your autograph the cam covers, too.
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Originally Posted by ROG100
Sterling I would be honored to have the parts in my collection, to be ogled, at special times. If no one wants to buy I will pay you more than scrap value/parts credit or what ever. To display your expertise at 928 events would be way cool. Please do not scrap this piece of 928 history I beg you as a friend.
The really amazing part of this stuff is that he was able to find a set of 1990 heads that he was able to get 968 sized ports into! Most of these heads have so much "core shift" that this isn't remotely feasible.

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Between this post from Roger, and the ones from Greg Brown and others. (thanks Hacker for the PM smack down reality check I needed it) I can't scrap this stuff now ..... and now I can't sell it either..... not to mention my almost full PM box when I logged in to respond to Hacker's pleading for me to stop this mess.

Roger and several other of the local 928 owners have been instrumental in helping me with my 928 over the years, and Roger especially for making me feel like family, for including to special holiday meals and just well... being the best 928 brother I can imagine & for this I can take no money... If I could choose the best option it would be for me to clean the heads and variocam parts up as much as possible, replace the pads.... polish the cams and I could make a white board video session that explains how it all works... or as it did in my car... even displaying the broken parts.... and make a small display to be put out when ever local 928 owners want to see and feel what the parts are like. I even had to make custom plug wires for this project. Best case scenario people are inspired to what is possible, and maybe if someone really wants it bad they can buy it from the collective with the money going to a nationally recognized charity.... the proceeds and tax benefits would go to the 928 owners club. If the group wants to build a car to see what it would do, I would happily add my time to get it dialed in... again my thought is for this to be collective information to be used by others. This IS VIABLE technology for our cars.... I have never wavered in that. I just run out of money... lol as we all do time to time....

I just will never forget the look on Rogers face as we completed a full throttle left hand turn on certain 2 lane highway and taking up both full lanes in a perfect drift at approximately 60 mph in the high end of 2nd gear before grabbing 3rd... the sonic employees were always happy when we let off at the end of 2nd and slid in sideways to get lunch.... Sean must have perfected that moved in his SC car because they seem to know him better....

so that is my offer. Free to the DFW group because they saw they heard and they got their asses kicked by it on road trips. They also believed in me, treated me like family and had my back. It is what they want to do with it.

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Originally Posted by 928sg
If I did that, I'd end up living in a shack just to have someplace to live so I could sweep the floor in Todd's shop....
No way....if you are sweeping the floor, what am I going to do there???
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
The really amazing part of this stuff is that he was able to find a set of 1990 heads that he was able to get 968 sized ports into! Most of these heads have so much "core shift" that this isn't remotely feasible.

928 art. Literally art.
Greg the Kudo's from you are worth more than gold. I was playing around in parking lots bugging people like Bob Norwood when you were actually doing stuff..... Somehow I lived 5 miles from one of the hottest Ferrari and Porsche Tuner shops within 1000 miles and they let me hang out and sweep the floors. I would have been better if it was Greg's shop but Bob has become a dear friend over the years....and he leans toward the Italian and Japanese import stuff these days....

Things I learned in Bob's shop... how to weld... how to tune a motec on the dyno and the street..... how to keep one of his 1200 hp testerossa's straight during a full throttle launch.... how to back up a lambo diabloo 30 feet with 4 turns and not hit anything....

and he also let me drive a jag XJ220.....
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Sterling spent so much time at norwoods he had his own set of shelves there.
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Sterling,

Your work on the variocam engine has been truly groundbreaking in the 928 world, and you (as well as a lot of others here) know it as well. I for one am hopeful that someone with a lot more skill and knowledge than I ever had or will have could continue with the variocam project and prove it to be fully functional. Then, make the 'procedure' to get there available to the entire community.

BUT - if they can't, and you conclude that you can't (or are burned out on it), then your offer to the DFW group to build a display etc. for various 928 gatherings is a wonderfully gracious approach.

IF that goes forward, I suggest you (or they) contact 928 OC directly to request some modest funds for the 'display project'. I can't say for sure it will be approved, but it's like asking the beautiful girl some questions - the worst thing that can happen is she says 'NO'.

Cheers mate,
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Originally Posted by Gary Knox
Sterling,

Your work on the variocam engine has been truly groundbreaking in the 928 world, and you (as well as a lot of others here) know it as well. I for one am hopeful that someone with a lot more skill and knowledge than I ever had or will have could continue with the variocam project and prove it to be fully functional. Then, make the 'procedure' to get there available to the entire community.

BUT - if they can't, and you conclude that you can't (or are burned out on it), then your offer to the DFW group to build a display etc. for various 928 gatherings is a wonderfully gracious approach.

IF that goes forward, I suggest you (or they) contact 928 OC directly to request some modest funds for the 'display project'. I can't say for sure it will be approved, but it's like asking the beautiful girl some questions - the worst thing that can happen is she says 'NO'.

Cheers mate,
Gary,

Thanks for the kind words. While the support from the OC would be cool, if that is something Roger would like to do, I would like to remove myself from that process because of the history with these parts. I paid for them.... worked hard to do so, but at the time there were some people that thought I was doing so to make a profit or to let others pay for my development. I'd rather have a loss financially than to have it on record that I took money from anyone...

Looking back.. I don't know why I went down this path... the 928 cost me more money than some spend on a home.... it cost me decades of my time.... relationships.... you name it, I paid the price.... at the time it was just a passion and as long as I donate the parts then it stays just that. as far as a display I think it would be cool to have the parts clean and just let people handle them and maybe come up with their own ideas on how to improve on the design and further the technology.... variable cam timing is on virtually every combustion engine from lawn mowers to scooters to cars..... I would love to see someone take this further... or even a group think take it further.
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Crazy awesome bargain for this system. 928sg, Ive always admired your 928, its always there when searching for variocam related stuff on the net.

Originally Posted by ptuomov
such as how the 968 tensioner was adapted to the driver side.
968 tensioner is unidirectional as the pad is the same from both sides and is actuated by hydraulic cylinder. The only directional thing is the pad wear pattern.
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Very late to the party but I for one would love to see and ponder this creation. Like a modern belt tensioner which 968s got, I always thought variable valve-timing was a concept that Porsche might have (should have?) added to 928 had it lived just a little longer. You would think the basic development could have been ported over to the 928 engine at a relatively low cost, as Sterling proved.
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Originally Posted by Tom in Austin
You would think the basic development could have been ported over to the 928 engine at a relatively low cost, as Sterling proved.
Biggest obstacle was probably cost of change to LH or EZK to control tensioner movement.
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Originally Posted by 928sg
I have a pair of 1990 928 heads modified to use the variocam from the 968 for sale. Ported for and includes 968 intake valves. Intake ports ported to match the larger 968 intake gaskets. Includes Intake port matched to the heads.

These did run in a 928 for almost 30K miles and do work. Also includes the billet cams specially made for the variocam and the 928.

Includes 968 cam covers as well. The cam tensioners need new pads and the whole setup should be disassembled and cleaned.

This set up cost me well over 10K to develop years ago, and it is the only setup like it in the world.

$2000 plus shipping.
Hi Sterling,

I just saw this post.. If you think about selling again, send me a PM or email..

I think can program the M880 to deal with the varioram.

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