1985 928s at Barrett-Jackson
#46
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I like.them all. Pretty simple for me.
#48
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Seems like a reasonable price for a decent driver. Hoping that the values will just take off one day like they did for 930's last year.
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Whats wrong with you people? I'm glad to see the price go up,these cars are way under priced for what they are.Don't give them away,is a 911 worth more? is a Vette worth more than a 928? The 928 had front engine and rear mounted transaxle long before the Vette.Just my 2 cents.
#50
Whats wrong with you people? I'm glad to see the price go up,these cars are way under priced for what they are.Don't give them away,is a 911 worth more? is a Vette worth more than a 928? The 928 had front engine and rear mounted transaxle long before the Vette.Just my 2 cents.
#51
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The best way to buy a driver type car at Barretts is to buy on the first day/ nite before the TV coverage.
Plenty of decent cruisers that are presentable & under 20k.- some way less. Not perfect cars, but fun.
I know a guy that usually buys one or two a year, has fun with them & resells later. Gets most of his money back & chalks up the difference to not having to babysit the body guy, painter & interior guy to build one from scratch. Not to mention finding a car to start with.
Plenty of decent cruisers that are presentable & under 20k.- some way less. Not perfect cars, but fun.
I know a guy that usually buys one or two a year, has fun with them & resells later. Gets most of his money back & chalks up the difference to not having to babysit the body guy, painter & interior guy to build one from scratch. Not to mention finding a car to start with.
#52
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Hey, I didn't start it, I just agreed. If you like the S4 body that's your business. I happen to think the S3 was the final 928, I also love the body styles of the S1 & 2, but I prefer a higher performance engine.
I can suggest places the glue might be more effective if you like
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#53
The '85 5.0L 32V S3 was rated (stock) at 288 hp for North America and it's relatively simple to "chip" the car and get 310 out of it. I don't know the hp some of the serious racers are getting out of the engine (maybe someone like Mark Kibort could chime in though I think he runs S4s), but I'm pretty certain it's well north of 310. Relatively simple mods (8V head, turbo charging for example) can be made to the 944S2 that will easily blow the doors off a normally aspirated 928, and blowing a 928 is pretty difficult due to the size of the engine bay, it's hard to locate the turbos in a good location. I believe John Kuhn has the most successful design but up to now he's not been interested in building the S3 and frankly I'm not up to the task of designing a bi-turbo 928 from scratch. AFAIK he's only working on the S4s. It's easier to supercharge a 928 than turbocharge one, but I've never been fond of supercharging myself. I'm more interested in endurance road racing and not many people supercharge in that arena.
So the short answer is no, I did not know the North American 928 S2 was capable of 310hp.
I've been told that one of the easiest ways to boost S3 performance (after chipping) is to switch to the '84 or '85 16V Euro heads, unfortunately that would cause the car to fail smog in CA. Even though I register my cars in Wyoming, I do drive them and occasionally keep them for extended periods at my place in CA. If I ever sell my place in WY I'd like to be able to register them easily in other states, so I keep the 928 CA smog compliant. I'm not at all picky about the 944 though since it's primarily a track car.
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These "look what they paid for this car" threads absolutely crack me up.
Nice 928s that don't need a complete repaint and a new interior are getting really difficult to find....completely ignoring the mechanicals.
Any year, any example that has nice paint and a nice interior is worth 15k....primarily because a paint job and an interior like Porsche originally put on these cars is going to cost 30-40k.
I repair, hot rod, and restore 928s. A complete "freshening" (suspension, brakes, electrical, engine, transmission along with high quality paint job and high quality interior) is currently going to leave you with pocket change from 100k. And that's a really nice driver....no where near a show car!
15k for a nice example.....S2, S3, or S4....doesn't matter. It's a great deal!
This is the time! Pieces required for restoration are still available. The "buy in" prices are reasonable. Find the best one you can find, buy it, and make it as new as you can!
If you blink, this moment is going to be gone!
Nice 928s that don't need a complete repaint and a new interior are getting really difficult to find....completely ignoring the mechanicals.
Any year, any example that has nice paint and a nice interior is worth 15k....primarily because a paint job and an interior like Porsche originally put on these cars is going to cost 30-40k.
I repair, hot rod, and restore 928s. A complete "freshening" (suspension, brakes, electrical, engine, transmission along with high quality paint job and high quality interior) is currently going to leave you with pocket change from 100k. And that's a really nice driver....no where near a show car!
15k for a nice example.....S2, S3, or S4....doesn't matter. It's a great deal!
This is the time! Pieces required for restoration are still available. The "buy in" prices are reasonable. Find the best one you can find, buy it, and make it as new as you can!
If you blink, this moment is going to be gone!
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Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
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#55
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These "look what they paid for this car" threads absolutely crack me up.
Nice 928s that don't need a complete repaint and a new interior are getting really difficult to find....completely ignoring the mechanicals.
Any year, any example that has nice paint and a nice interior is worth 15k....primarily because a paint job and an interior like Porsche originally put on these cars is going to cost 30-40k.
I repair, hot rod, and restore 928s. A complete "freshening" (suspension, brakes, electrical, engine, transmission along with high quality paint job and high quality interior) is currently going to leave you with pocket change from 100k. And that's a really nice driver....no where near a show car!
15k for a nice example.....S2, S3, or S4....doesn't matter. It's a great deal!
This is the time! Pieces required for restoration are still available. The "buy in" prices are reasonable. Find the best one you can find, buy it, and make it as new as you can!
If you blink, this moment is going to be gone!
Nice 928s that don't need a complete repaint and a new interior are getting really difficult to find....completely ignoring the mechanicals.
Any year, any example that has nice paint and a nice interior is worth 15k....primarily because a paint job and an interior like Porsche originally put on these cars is going to cost 30-40k.
I repair, hot rod, and restore 928s. A complete "freshening" (suspension, brakes, electrical, engine, transmission along with high quality paint job and high quality interior) is currently going to leave you with pocket change from 100k. And that's a really nice driver....no where near a show car!
15k for a nice example.....S2, S3, or S4....doesn't matter. It's a great deal!
This is the time! Pieces required for restoration are still available. The "buy in" prices are reasonable. Find the best one you can find, buy it, and make it as new as you can!
If you blink, this moment is going to be gone!
I think I'll keep Blumaxx for a bit more.
#56
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I could have sworn that I saw another 928 listed on the screen that went for $30k...I did not see the auction (assuming it was featured....), but it was on the list of cars sold on the screen. Anybody else pick that one up?
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http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archive/Event/Item/1982-PORSCHE-928-CUSTOM-ROADSTER-182082
Having been up there today - the prices on the whole looked high, there were only a handful of cars I'd say we're bargains. Most looked close or higher than retail (IMHO)..,
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Whats wrong with you people? I'm glad to see the price go up,these cars are way under priced for what they are.Don't give them away,is a 911 worth more? is a Vette worth more than a 928? The 928 had front engine and rear mounted transaxle long before the Vette.Just my 2 cents.
If 928 prices are not way up now in this bubble when will they be? Maybe the next one when more 928's disappear.
#59
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And AFAIK, the "S3" was never an official designation. It's just what 85 & 86 (& 86.5) US market cars are commonly known as.
I'm also not talking about modified motors. I'm talking about stock, as delivered.
And "PS" is pretty much "horsepower."
Though it’s still commonly used by carmakers, PS or Pferdestärke (horse-strength in German) was actually replaced by kW as the EU's ‘legal’ measurement of engine power in 1992.
One PS is about 98.6% of a brake horsepower – the two are virtually interchangeable, and PS is sometimes referred to as 'metric horsepower'.
One PS is about 98.6% of a brake horsepower – the two are virtually interchangeable, and PS is sometimes referred to as 'metric horsepower'.
#60
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Earlier in the week? I saw an '82 listed as selling in the 30's, after a bit of googling - I think it was this speedster -
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archi...OADSTER-182082
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archi...OADSTER-182082