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Old 01-09-2015, 04:07 PM
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Default Sparkplugs from 1991 S4 with 178k miles

Doing a full refresh, timing belt and water pump. Car runs very strong for its mileage.
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wow those plugs look awful...
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I agree.
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They look like spark plugs from an engine running slightly rich.....tough to tell much else without a whole bunch more resolution or by holding them in my hands.

If you can swing it, I'd suggest buying a new set.....
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
They look like spark plugs from an engine running slightly rich.....tough to tell much else without a whole bunch more resolution or by holding them in my hands.

If you can swing it, I'd suggest buying a new set.....

Already installed a new set. Have a newly calibrated MAF ready to go. I will pull them in a couple of thousand miles to see if that helped.
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the other question would be where did those oil drips come from?
if they came from a plug that had oil on it, then the cam cover seals are leaking oil into the wells,
and should be refreshed,

If you do refresh them, make sure to use a bead of Hondabond 4 in the cover groove,
and install the sealing washers to the heads of each of the bolts IIRC you need 26 washers
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
the other question would be where did those oil drips come from?
if they came from a plug that had oil on it, then the cam cover seals are leaking oil into the wells,
and should be refreshed,

If you do refresh them, make sure to use a bead of Hondabond 4 in the cover groove,
and install the sealing washers to the heads of each of the bolts IIRC you need 26 washers
I thought that those seals were designed to seep, to protect the spark plugs and connectors from corrosion?
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I have replaced the spark plug seals, cam cover gaskets, oil port 'O' rings. The cam end oil 'pucks' looked great and so did the tensioner pads so they were not replaced. Honda bond at the corners and sealing rings on all the bolts and properly torqued.

I learned something new in the freezing weather in GA - if your Honda bond is chilled it spreads more easily/controllable and you don't have quite the mess of the spider webs of goo.

When I peered down the intake port the valves were cleaner than my lower mileage 87 was.
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I'll stick my head out and say that for their running time they really don't look so bad. A little rich to be sure, as Greg says, but from what I can make out of the color of the ceramics (admittedly hard to tell on a monitor), not so much, ceteris parabis. But given the appearance of the rim of the body, I would like to take a peak at the piston tops, which I suspect are carbonized to some degree.
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I learned something new in the freezing weather in GA - if your Honda bond is chilled it spreads more easily/controllable and you don't have quite the mess of the spider webs of goo.
I will definitely remember that little trick Kevin.
I used HondBond on my cam cover corners this past Summer.
I could not believe how runny and stringy it was. VERY messy!
Next time I will place the tube in the refrigerator beforehand.
I suppose I should have thought of trying something like that.
Thanks for sharing that observation!

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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
I thought that those seals were designed to seep, to protect the spark plugs and connectors from corrosion?
Greg, you really ought to have put a smiley face after this, otherwise decades from now, somebody will pull up this quote and take it as gospel. Plus, since nobody said anything before me, I guess they didn't realize you were having fun.



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