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whats so wrong with changing the oil how it should be changed? or is it "to much work for this car"?
1) getting ramps with the correct approach angle
3) jack up both sides...or just one? ...then which one.
It can actually be a PITA if you don't have a good set up.
I can do my Explorer with out any "lifting"..it has the clearance underneath.
Our Escape the same thing.. Other cars i can park at the bottom of our sloped driveway and slide underneath.
Point being..everyone has a different approach to it that works for them.
Me..i run it dry ...then i dont have to drain anything.
Don't believe a Chevy oil pan and 928 pan are anything alike. There is a drain plug for a reason. This is beginning to sound like a 911 forum. Need to discuss best polishing cloths and wiper blades next.
Just my $.02
You forgot about cup holders and which watch matches your center caps.
anyway, syphon doesn't work. you will leave about 2-3 quarts of dirty oil in the pan
See Jim's post just above mine and then tell us if it's stupid.
Originally Posted by LostInSpace
What are people with the external oil coolers under the radiator doing to drain the oil in there?
That doesn't get drained anyway when you pull the drain plug
Originally Posted by XS29L9B
I get my Motorcraft filer at Wal Mart for my truck, as I save about $4.00/filter over Advance Auto, etc. for the same.
I like to save money. But haven't used Fram to do so.
You are driving a Porsche, not a Ford, get a good filter.
I use the siphon on my wifes mercedes and hope to never see the oil pan plug, but on the 928 I use the drain plug since it's right next to the oil filter. And I'll only use a Mann/Mahle/Wix filter.
NOO!!! I meant it's "Stupid" that there is not a cut out or a hatch in those underbelly pans.... so, yes, I agree with you and what was done.. Nice work!!
get a good filter!!! all you need is a fram failure, to clog the very delecate oil passages and you lose an engine... to what, save 4 bucks.. are you insane!! use the Mahle filter and call it a day. skip one lunch to pay for it in 6 months!
as far as the pump, you don't get all the oil, and the last little bit , is where all the dirty stuff is, and that wont get pumped out. (plus as was said, the magnet should be cleaned, although I never have any thing stuck to it)
Originally Posted by SeanR
See Jim's post just above mine and then tell us if it's stupid.
That doesn't get drained anyway when you pull the drain plug
You are driving a Porsche, not a Ford, get a good filter.
I use the siphon on my wifes mercedes and hope to never see the oil pan plug, but on the 928 I use the drain plug since it's right next to the oil filter. And I'll only use a Mann/Mahle/Wix filter.
oh yeah, I forgot about that! thank God (and Porsche) for the drain plug magnet. remember, I would see a tooth stuck to the magnet and then go up top to see where it came from ...... as soon as two adjacent teeth were found, I pulled the cams
I get my Motorcraft filer at Wal Mart for my truck, as I save about $4.00/filter over Advance Auto, etc. for the same.
I like to save money. But haven't used Fram to do so.
Originally Posted by mark kibort
You are driving a Porsche, not a Ford, get a good filter.
I use the siphon on my wifes mercedes and hope to never see the oil pan plug, but on the 928 I use the drain plug since it's right next to the oil filter. And I'll only use a Mann/Mahle/Wix filter.
I hear you, but for the Ford truck, a Motorcraft filter at Wal Mart is still $19.95 vs $24 at Advance Auto. I am all about saving money, as I have 15 quarts of oil to then buy for the truck
It'll be in the book. I don't know it offhand. There's only one filter for all years.
But, if you are "all about saving money" (in a reasonable manner), then the oil filter from Roger will be about 2/3 the price of the Wix. Obviously you will be paying for shipping, but chances are you need other stuff from him too. Combine it in a bigger order and the shipping costs (per item) go way down.
Don't believe a Chevy oil pan and 928 pan are anything alike. There is a drain plug for a reason. This is beginning to sound like a 911 forum. Need to discuss best polishing cloths and wiper blades next.
Just my $.02
I changed the oil in the Chevy today in about 10 minutes. Pretty easy.
Got the 928 on the lift, and no belly pans... Hmm...
Excuse the ignorance here, as I don't have one on my '82, but why not just remove the Belly Pan? Is it that much of a PITA to take off?
I used to have a Volvo XC with a belly pan that covered the entire lower engine. Probably weighed 10 pounds and I'd need to hold it up with old cat litter containers because it was so awkward.
But, I removed it the two times a year that the oil needed to be changed, and went through the 10 minutes of fuss to take it off and put it back on.
On my wife's German car, the engineers placed 12 bolts on a belly pan, which prevent reasonable access to the oil drain plug. So for that car, I siphon the 6 quarts of oil and believe I get most, if not all the oil (based on what comes out).
That said, what is the preferred method on a 928 s4, changing the oil? I tried a forum search, which didn't yield anything of matter.
Also, is one brand filter suggested over another - or specifically, is there something to stay away from?