928 race car #829 found (Bob Devore / DEVEK - HP)
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It is currently going thru the dmv process to get s clear title,not sure how this would work on the track. I race scca gt1 with a vintage trans am series car,wonder how a car like this would compare? Are these car durable? The 4v motor is said to be in the 650 hr range. Are the brake any good,how about the trans.would this car take track abuse?
#32
Maverick showed up on one of the 928 Facebook groups recently, he had a few people ooing and aahhing about his collection until "somebody" informed the group about him. Especially when he was showing pictures of a red 928 Pickup that he said he was driving. He disappeared quickly and deleted things when I showed him a picture of this truck in our possession.
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I Am The Owner Of The DEVORE 928 Racer...
I have NEVER posted or been involved with the Rennlist EVER.
Nevertheless, I've known of ALL the erroneous stories and lore and legend that has surrounded me since a fellow 928'er CLAIMED that I stole his Slant Nose 928 by one day showing up at his house giving him a $5,000 Cashiers Check (a good one) and never came back.
No need to delve down that slippery Porsche Rabbit hole as there are plenty of post here to entertain that controversy.
But today when I got a phone call from a good friend who is a Legendary 928 man and highly respected in these 928 Circles
(that I will not name to protect him from the ensuing drama)
about my DEVORE RACER being talked about being sold.
I decided that the time had finally come for me to take off my muted muzzle and join in to the group and enjoy these boards as many of you do for info and 928 support.
Many of you here know me as Maverick Marsalis.
Some know me by my many alleged different alias names and such as a exaggerated Car thief, Con Man, Criminal, Dilettante, Drug Dealer, Womanizer,
(love to stand women up who want to ride with me at car shows) Pornographer, Thief (did I say that already?)Child Molester, Infected with AIDS and many other BOGUS adjectives in the pantheon of 928 super Internet rumor mill, lies and tales and stories and quite possibly
The Greatest Porsche 928 Customizer Of All Time.
(like or not. No One Has Ever Modified More Porsche 928's Than Me! No One)
Can I say that? LOL!
I just want anyone who reads this to know that is my 928 Race car that is in question.
The Bob Devore Racer.
I have been restoring for several years now.
It's as simple as that.
LIKE IT OR NOT
If you think that it's not...
then go ahead and say what you will as you have always done here to label me the lowest of Human Life forms in the 928 world.
It does not change the fact and the law of ownership and title in the state of California.
I can assure you if you try acquire it you will be buried in a mountain of Litigation in attempting to do so!
The Unlawful Lien Sale along with the VIN has been reported to the California DMV and the Un-licensed Automotive shop reported to the Bureau of Automotive Repair who are investigating the Fraudulent Nigerian Tuning Shop.
However, since this is my VERY FIRST post ever (it very well may be my last too)
I'll close here.
I suspect some of you will try to have me removed from here so that I can't have a voice to refute or rebut my name or challenge the lies that have been spread with impunity about me and my many 928 cars that have been in discussion here.
Some will chime in on the ongoing Porsche drama and others will be amused or even appalled.
But...
I come here in positive peace.
I come here in respect.
I come here with no drama. (the main reason I've NEVER posted here)
I come here in hope of the fleeting doubt that can be given to any soul in the ethos of the Human spirit.
I also come here to defend myself (if necessary) from many of the wild lies and stories that frankly just aren't true.
Abet, I'm not a Saint and surely I've sinned in my life.
I doubt any of you can forgive me since I'm such a purported low down rotten MF!
I ask of you to forgive me for any wrong that I may have ACTUALLY done to any of you here in this group.
John 8:7
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
As I remain; in hope and trust,
~Maverick
Nevertheless, I've known of ALL the erroneous stories and lore and legend that has surrounded me since a fellow 928'er CLAIMED that I stole his Slant Nose 928 by one day showing up at his house giving him a $5,000 Cashiers Check (a good one) and never came back.
No need to delve down that slippery Porsche Rabbit hole as there are plenty of post here to entertain that controversy.
But today when I got a phone call from a good friend who is a Legendary 928 man and highly respected in these 928 Circles
(that I will not name to protect him from the ensuing drama)
about my DEVORE RACER being talked about being sold.
I decided that the time had finally come for me to take off my muted muzzle and join in to the group and enjoy these boards as many of you do for info and 928 support.
Many of you here know me as Maverick Marsalis.
Some know me by my many alleged different alias names and such as a exaggerated Car thief, Con Man, Criminal, Dilettante, Drug Dealer, Womanizer,
(love to stand women up who want to ride with me at car shows) Pornographer, Thief (did I say that already?)Child Molester, Infected with AIDS and many other BOGUS adjectives in the pantheon of 928 super Internet rumor mill, lies and tales and stories and quite possibly
The Greatest Porsche 928 Customizer Of All Time.
(like or not. No One Has Ever Modified More Porsche 928's Than Me! No One)
Can I say that? LOL!
I just want anyone who reads this to know that is my 928 Race car that is in question.
The Bob Devore Racer.
I have been restoring for several years now.
It's as simple as that.
LIKE IT OR NOT
If you think that it's not...
then go ahead and say what you will as you have always done here to label me the lowest of Human Life forms in the 928 world.
It does not change the fact and the law of ownership and title in the state of California.
I can assure you if you try acquire it you will be buried in a mountain of Litigation in attempting to do so!
The Unlawful Lien Sale along with the VIN has been reported to the California DMV and the Un-licensed Automotive shop reported to the Bureau of Automotive Repair who are investigating the Fraudulent Nigerian Tuning Shop.
However, since this is my VERY FIRST post ever (it very well may be my last too)
I'll close here.
I suspect some of you will try to have me removed from here so that I can't have a voice to refute or rebut my name or challenge the lies that have been spread with impunity about me and my many 928 cars that have been in discussion here.
Some will chime in on the ongoing Porsche drama and others will be amused or even appalled.
But...
I come here in positive peace.
I come here in respect.
I come here with no drama. (the main reason I've NEVER posted here)
I come here in hope of the fleeting doubt that can be given to any soul in the ethos of the Human spirit.
I also come here to defend myself (if necessary) from many of the wild lies and stories that frankly just aren't true.
Abet, I'm not a Saint and surely I've sinned in my life.
I doubt any of you can forgive me since I'm such a purported low down rotten MF!
I ask of you to forgive me for any wrong that I may have ACTUALLY done to any of you here in this group.
John 8:7
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
As I remain; in hope and trust,
~Maverick
#34
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Hello Maverick,
Allow me to welcome you to Rennlist and I must say, interesting screen name choice.
If you have any questions about the site or 928's in general, please reference the FAQ at the top of this forum which covers a lot of basic stuff.
Awesome car you have there, thank you for joining and filling us is in on the current status of the machine. I know there has been a lot of talk about the car, it's very well known and much of that history has been clouded in mystery. Nice to hear from an actual owner!!
Let me be very clear here, follow the rules (it's simple...just play nice with others) and we can all get along just fine.
For more specific details on this subject, please visit here: http://www.internetbrands.com/ibterm...e=Rennlist.com
However, if a thread goes off the rails for any reason, I reserve the right to close it.
This forum is not here as an open soap box for people to settle their issues. You made some strong claims about the current state of the cars ownership involving at least one business and I suspect, 1-2 people on this forum.
Keep it civil and factual and I have no issues with the discussion carrying on and you sharing your information on the vehicle. If it goes beyond that, I'll shut down the thread and you can continue offline with the necessary parties.
On a lighter note......with the above statement I have to ask you one question: Are you related to Mark Kibort?
Allow me to welcome you to Rennlist and I must say, interesting screen name choice.
If you have any questions about the site or 928's in general, please reference the FAQ at the top of this forum which covers a lot of basic stuff.
Awesome car you have there, thank you for joining and filling us is in on the current status of the machine. I know there has been a lot of talk about the car, it's very well known and much of that history has been clouded in mystery. Nice to hear from an actual owner!!
For more specific details on this subject, please visit here: http://www.internetbrands.com/ibterm...e=Rennlist.com
However, if a thread goes off the rails for any reason, I reserve the right to close it.
This forum is not here as an open soap box for people to settle their issues. You made some strong claims about the current state of the cars ownership involving at least one business and I suspect, 1-2 people on this forum.
Keep it civil and factual and I have no issues with the discussion carrying on and you sharing your information on the vehicle. If it goes beyond that, I'll shut down the thread and you can continue offline with the necessary parties.
On a lighter note......with the above statement I have to ask you one question: Are you related to Mark Kibort?
#35
Nordschleife Master
I have NEVER posted or been involved with the Rennlist EVER.
Nevertheless, I've known of ALL the erroneous stories and lore and legend that has surrounded me since a fellow 928'er CLAIMED that I stole his Slant Nose 928 by one day showing up at his house giving him a $5,000 Cashiers Check (a good one) and never came back.
No need to delve down that slippery Porsche Rabbit hole as there are plenty of post here to entertain that controversy.
But today when I got a phone call from a good friend who is a Legendary 928 man and highly respected in these 928 Circles
(that I will not name to protect him from the ensuing drama)
about my DEVORE RACER being talked about being sold.
I decided that the time had finally come for me to take off my muted muzzle and join in to the group and enjoy these boards as many of you do for info and 928 support.
Many of you here know me as Maverick Marsalis.
Some know me by my many alleged different alias names and such as a exaggerated Car thief, Con Man, Criminal, Dilettante, Drug Dealer, Womanizer,
(love to stand women up who want to ride with me at car shows) Pornographer, Thief (did I say that already?)Child Molester, Infected with AIDS and many other BOGUS adjectives in the pantheon of 928 super Internet rumor mill, lies and tales and stories and quite possibly
The Greatest Porsche 928 Customizer Of All Time.
(like or not. No One Has Ever Modified More Porsche 928's Than Me! No One)
Can I say that? LOL!
I just want anyone who reads this to know that is my 928 Race car that is in question.
The Bob Devore Racer.
I have been restoring for several years now.
It's as simple as that.
LIKE IT OR NOT
If you think that it's not...
then go ahead and say what you will as you have always done here to label me the lowest of Human Life forms in the 928 world.
It does not change the fact and the law of ownership and title in the state of California.
I can assure you if you try acquire it you will be buried in a mountain of Litigation in attempting to do so!
The Unlawful Lien Sale along with the VIN has been reported to the California DMV and the Un-licensed Automotive shop reported to the Bureau of Automotive Repair who are investigating the Fraudulent Nigerian Tuning Shop.
However, since this is my VERY FIRST post ever (it very well may be my last too)
I'll close here.
I suspect some of you will try to have me removed from here so that I can't have a voice to refute or rebut my name or challenge the lies that have been spread with impunity about me and my many 928 cars that have been in discussion here.
Some will chime in on the ongoing Porsche drama and others will be amused or even appalled.
But...
I come here in positive peace.
I come here in respect.
I come here with no drama. (the main reason I've NEVER posted here)
I come here in hope of the fleeting doubt that can be given to any soul in the ethos of the Human spirit.
I also come here to defend myself (if necessary) from many of the wild lies and stories that frankly just aren't true.
Abet, I'm not a Saint and surely I've sinned in my life.
I doubt any of you can forgive me since I'm such a purported low down rotten MF!
I ask of you to forgive me for any wrong that I may have ACTUALLY done to any of you here in this group.
John 8:7
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
As I remain; in hope and trust,
~Maverick
Nevertheless, I've known of ALL the erroneous stories and lore and legend that has surrounded me since a fellow 928'er CLAIMED that I stole his Slant Nose 928 by one day showing up at his house giving him a $5,000 Cashiers Check (a good one) and never came back.
No need to delve down that slippery Porsche Rabbit hole as there are plenty of post here to entertain that controversy.
But today when I got a phone call from a good friend who is a Legendary 928 man and highly respected in these 928 Circles
(that I will not name to protect him from the ensuing drama)
about my DEVORE RACER being talked about being sold.
I decided that the time had finally come for me to take off my muted muzzle and join in to the group and enjoy these boards as many of you do for info and 928 support.
Many of you here know me as Maverick Marsalis.
Some know me by my many alleged different alias names and such as a exaggerated Car thief, Con Man, Criminal, Dilettante, Drug Dealer, Womanizer,
(love to stand women up who want to ride with me at car shows) Pornographer, Thief (did I say that already?)Child Molester, Infected with AIDS and many other BOGUS adjectives in the pantheon of 928 super Internet rumor mill, lies and tales and stories and quite possibly
The Greatest Porsche 928 Customizer Of All Time.
(like or not. No One Has Ever Modified More Porsche 928's Than Me! No One)
Can I say that? LOL!
I just want anyone who reads this to know that is my 928 Race car that is in question.
The Bob Devore Racer.
I have been restoring for several years now.
It's as simple as that.
LIKE IT OR NOT
If you think that it's not...
then go ahead and say what you will as you have always done here to label me the lowest of Human Life forms in the 928 world.
It does not change the fact and the law of ownership and title in the state of California.
I can assure you if you try acquire it you will be buried in a mountain of Litigation in attempting to do so!
The Unlawful Lien Sale along with the VIN has been reported to the California DMV and the Un-licensed Automotive shop reported to the Bureau of Automotive Repair who are investigating the Fraudulent Nigerian Tuning Shop.
However, since this is my VERY FIRST post ever (it very well may be my last too)
I'll close here.
I suspect some of you will try to have me removed from here so that I can't have a voice to refute or rebut my name or challenge the lies that have been spread with impunity about me and my many 928 cars that have been in discussion here.
Some will chime in on the ongoing Porsche drama and others will be amused or even appalled.
But...
I come here in positive peace.
I come here in respect.
I come here with no drama. (the main reason I've NEVER posted here)
I come here in hope of the fleeting doubt that can be given to any soul in the ethos of the Human spirit.
I also come here to defend myself (if necessary) from many of the wild lies and stories that frankly just aren't true.
Abet, I'm not a Saint and surely I've sinned in my life.
I doubt any of you can forgive me since I'm such a purported low down rotten MF!
I ask of you to forgive me for any wrong that I may have ACTUALLY done to any of you here in this group.
John 8:7
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
As I remain; in hope and trust,
~Maverick
#36
I have NEVER posted or been involved with the Rennlist EVER.
Nevertheless, I've known of ALL the erroneous stories and lore and legend that has surrounded me since a fellow 928'er CLAIMED that I stole his Slant Nose 928 by one day showing up at his house giving him a $5,000 Cashiers Check (a good one) and never came back.
No need to delve down that slippery Porsche Rabbit hole as there are plenty of post here to entertain that controversy.
But today when I got a phone call from a good friend who is a Legendary 928 man and highly respected in these 928 Circles
(that I will not name to protect him from the ensuing drama)
about my DEVORE RACER being talked about being sold.
I decided that the time had finally come for me to take off my muted muzzle and join in to the group and enjoy these boards as many of you do for info and 928 support.
Many of you here know me as Maverick Marsalis.
Some know me by my many alleged different alias names and such as a exaggerated Car thief, Con Man, Criminal, Dilettante, Drug Dealer, Womanizer,
(love to stand women up who want to ride with me at car shows) Pornographer, Thief (did I say that already?)Child Molester, Infected with AIDS and many other BOGUS adjectives in the pantheon of 928 super Internet rumor mill, lies and tales and stories and quite possibly
The Greatest Porsche 928 Customizer Of All Time.
(like or not. No One Has Ever Modified More Porsche 928's Than Me! No One)
Can I say that? LOL!
I just want anyone who reads this to know that is my 928 Race car that is in question.
The Bob Devore Racer.
I have been restoring for several years now.
It's as simple as that.
LIKE IT OR NOT
If you think that it's not...
then go ahead and say what you will as you have always done here to label me the lowest of Human Life forms in the 928 world.
It does not change the fact and the law of ownership and title in the state of California.
I can assure you if you try acquire it you will be buried in a mountain of Litigation in attempting to do so!
The Unlawful Lien Sale along with the VIN has been reported to the California DMV and the Un-licensed Automotive shop reported to the Bureau of Automotive Repair who are investigating the Fraudulent Nigerian Tuning Shop.
However, since this is my VERY FIRST post ever (it very well may be my last too)
I'll close here.
I suspect some of you will try to have me removed from here so that I can't have a voice to refute or rebut my name or challenge the lies that have been spread with impunity about me and my many 928 cars that have been in discussion here.
Some will chime in on the ongoing Porsche drama and others will be amused or even appalled.
But...
I come here in positive peace.
I come here in respect.
I come here with no drama. (the main reason I've NEVER posted here)
I come here in hope of the fleeting doubt that can be given to any soul in the ethos of the Human spirit.
I also come here to defend myself (if necessary) from many of the wild lies and stories that frankly just aren't true.
Abet, I'm not a Saint and surely I've sinned in my life.
I doubt any of you can forgive me since I'm such a purported low down rotten MF!
I ask of you to forgive me for any wrong that I may have ACTUALLY done to any of you here in this group.
John 8:7
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
As I remain; in hope and trust,
~Maverick
Nevertheless, I've known of ALL the erroneous stories and lore and legend that has surrounded me since a fellow 928'er CLAIMED that I stole his Slant Nose 928 by one day showing up at his house giving him a $5,000 Cashiers Check (a good one) and never came back.
No need to delve down that slippery Porsche Rabbit hole as there are plenty of post here to entertain that controversy.
But today when I got a phone call from a good friend who is a Legendary 928 man and highly respected in these 928 Circles
(that I will not name to protect him from the ensuing drama)
about my DEVORE RACER being talked about being sold.
I decided that the time had finally come for me to take off my muted muzzle and join in to the group and enjoy these boards as many of you do for info and 928 support.
Many of you here know me as Maverick Marsalis.
Some know me by my many alleged different alias names and such as a exaggerated Car thief, Con Man, Criminal, Dilettante, Drug Dealer, Womanizer,
(love to stand women up who want to ride with me at car shows) Pornographer, Thief (did I say that already?)Child Molester, Infected with AIDS and many other BOGUS adjectives in the pantheon of 928 super Internet rumor mill, lies and tales and stories and quite possibly
The Greatest Porsche 928 Customizer Of All Time.
(like or not. No One Has Ever Modified More Porsche 928's Than Me! No One)
Can I say that? LOL!
I just want anyone who reads this to know that is my 928 Race car that is in question.
The Bob Devore Racer.
I have been restoring for several years now.
It's as simple as that.
LIKE IT OR NOT
If you think that it's not...
then go ahead and say what you will as you have always done here to label me the lowest of Human Life forms in the 928 world.
It does not change the fact and the law of ownership and title in the state of California.
I can assure you if you try acquire it you will be buried in a mountain of Litigation in attempting to do so!
The Unlawful Lien Sale along with the VIN has been reported to the California DMV and the Un-licensed Automotive shop reported to the Bureau of Automotive Repair who are investigating the Fraudulent Nigerian Tuning Shop.
However, since this is my VERY FIRST post ever (it very well may be my last too)
I'll close here.
I suspect some of you will try to have me removed from here so that I can't have a voice to refute or rebut my name or challenge the lies that have been spread with impunity about me and my many 928 cars that have been in discussion here.
Some will chime in on the ongoing Porsche drama and others will be amused or even appalled.
But...
I come here in positive peace.
I come here in respect.
I come here with no drama. (the main reason I've NEVER posted here)
I come here in hope of the fleeting doubt that can be given to any soul in the ethos of the Human spirit.
I also come here to defend myself (if necessary) from many of the wild lies and stories that frankly just aren't true.
Abet, I'm not a Saint and surely I've sinned in my life.
I doubt any of you can forgive me since I'm such a purported low down rotten MF!
I ask of you to forgive me for any wrong that I may have ACTUALLY done to any of you here in this group.
John 8:7
7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
As I remain; in hope and trust,
~Maverick
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Actually? Really? "Somebody"?
Maverick showed up on one of the 928 Facebook groups recently, he had a few people ooing and aahhing about his collection until "somebody" informed the group about him. Especially when he was showing pictures of a red 928 Pickup that he said he was driving. He disappeared quickly and deleted things when I showed him a picture of this truck in our possession.
(as I've never met you in person or had any knowledge of you or had conversation with you on line until now this communicae)
But come on SeanR; you know you never reached out to me on FB to show me that you had acquired the red 928 pick up that you bought from Mark A.
If you had done so I would been delighted that you had picked up the cool 928.
Now mind you; I'm not calling you a liar or saying anything of the sort but
The FB group was "ooing and aahhing" over another one of my 928's sir (a wide body Cabrio) and not the one you now have.
Fact is, I didn't "disappear quickly" as you state.
I was removed "quickly".
(a disappearance of sorts I guess)
I figure that "Somebody" you mentioned told them what a low down rotten scoundrel I'm supposed to be and I was deleted from the group.
I enjoyed that FB group too SeanR as it was a positive supportive 928 forum for all.
Maybe you showed me a picture of your 928 truck in your possession AFTER I was removed from the FB group?
No hard feelings at all SeanR. I'm glad it's in good hands as it's so unique with what Mark A. did to it.
But again; I'm not calling you a liar but I had no knowledge that you bought my old 928 pick up until I read this thread.
It's a very cool 928!
I truly hope you're enjoying as much as I did when it was mines.
#39
The Parts Whisperer
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For those of you that have been here a bit you may member a couple of people over the years that posted that I was a "thief and practiced deceitful business practices and you better stay away". I was fortunate that many of you had dealt with me and found these accusations untrue. Remember my H5 headlight issues?
My point is that much of what you may have read about Maverick is hearsay. I have dealt with Maverick for 15 plus years and have had nothing but positive things to say. All I suggest is that you base your options on facts.
No matter what you say he is a very hard core 928 nut and sees the attributes we all appreciate.
My point is that much of what you may have read about Maverick is hearsay. I have dealt with Maverick for 15 plus years and have had nothing but positive things to say. All I suggest is that you base your options on facts.
No matter what you say he is a very hard core 928 nut and sees the attributes we all appreciate.
#42
Three Wheelin'
having difficulty following all the drama but I have always been intigued by Bob Devore and his car. Would it be possible to share with us more photos of this car. I would love to see what's under the hood as well as shots of the front and rear suspensions.
#43
Nordschleife Master
I believe the only way to get them now is to buy James Morrison's race car (for the front fenders) and the extra set of the rear's which Dave Roberts has (if they're for sale).
#44
Drifting
Maverick;
You've always been nice and cordial to me, but I have nothing else to go on besides what's said here.
May I ask, why was your shop and 928 inventory liquidated a couple of years ago?
You've always been nice and cordial to me, but I have nothing else to go on besides what's said here.
May I ask, why was your shop and 928 inventory liquidated a couple of years ago?
#45
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Yes.
I've always been nice, respectful and cordial to anyone who has ever approached me directly.
(even when I've known that they had talked S#:t behind my back such as yourself)
Like you, I have nothing to "go on" but how you've treated me in person
(or behind my back telling "stories" on the phone to attendees at Porsche Concurs events and such) Bronto.
But I've made a decision a long time ago that I was not going the route of the "Angry Black Man" in a social circle of fellow Porsche enthusiasts.
That's just foolish and would only make me more of an outcast than I already am.
As for why that Unlawful liquidation of some of my personal effects happened 2 years ago?
I don't mind you asking Bronto. (intrusive as it may be)
But I don't think this is the place or the forum to air my legal (soiled) laundry in at this time.
However, I can tell you that contrary to wide spread speculation that I had "finally got what was coming to me" or that I was jailed or imprisoned or even dead were wildly exaggerated!
Nevertheless, if we ever see each other in person Bronto; I'm gonna be the same friendly guy that you first walked up to 7 years ago at the 2007 Ventura Show and introduced yourself to me.
You may remember that day as I won Best of Show and People's Choice Award with the "Gaudy" Over The Top 1984 Porsche +Louis Vuttion 928.
I think you even posted a Blog about it.
Nice.
Like I said, if I ever see you again just hit me up and let's have a drink and handshake and a cordial hug and I'll tell you about it and the ongoing litigation surrounding that auction.