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Old 11-20-2014 | 01:59 PM
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Well, you ever tried to register a parts car in GA? Well have you punk? :-)
Old 11-20-2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark R.
With the overall condition of this car, I would just list it as "parts".
I realize the car is older than 25 years, which simplifies the process.
But I believe it's even easier (cheaper too?) to import a batch of parts.
Then just reassemble it back into a car after it all gets over here...

When the "parts" include a chassis with a vin I think its still treated like a car. When I tried to buy a Euro motor in Australia a couple years ago the brokers on both ends had no interest in dealing with a one time private individual transaction, and made it known via crazy fees and open ended surcharges.
Old 11-20-2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Hmm....it used to be red.... Maybe this is really the Holbert Bonneville car and Kibort has been living a lie all these years.

Now wouldn't THAT be someting?
Old 11-20-2014 | 02:30 PM
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Meh, the Holbert car was white, not red.

Old 11-20-2014 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Now wouldn't THAT be someting?
Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Meh, the Holbert car was white, not red.
Sure....that's what they WANT you to believe!!!!

On a serious note, it has been mentioned that after the Bonneville test they shipped the car back to Europe for a run on the Nardo ring, then it was shipped back to the US.....donated to IMSA, then donated to a school...at some point Kibort dumpster dove and found himself a race car.

What if.......the car that ran Nardo was another red pre-production car instead and people "assumed" they were the same car.

.....the plot thickens
Old 11-20-2014 | 04:07 PM
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Well, you ever tried to register a parts car in GA? Well have you punk? :-)
Well, that's a pretty good point Kevin...
But I'm not sure you would need to show the state the shipping manifest.
Although, I guess I'm not really sure what you would need to show them.
Will you be receiving some sort of European title with the car?
Or just some type of bill of sale purchase document..?

Old 11-20-2014 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
What paperwork must I have to export it from Germany and import it here? Total neophyte on this.
From here http://www.strassenverkehrsamt.de/ar...privatpersonen

Customs declaration form 0733 (Ausführmeldung)
Car titles (Fahrzeugschein and Fahrzeugbrief)
Certificate of deregistration if the car was deregistered before October 1st, 2005 (Abmeldebescheinigung)
Proof of insurance for export (Ausfuhr-Versicherungsbestätigung)
Certificate of technical inspection (TÜV-Prüfbericht)
Export plates (Kennzeichen)
Copy of identity owner
Authorization letter from new owner if not personally present
Purchase agreement
Car needs to checked by customs
Old 11-20-2014 | 05:09 PM
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Ok, so you get a pile of parts including a shell with a VIN into the country without incurring whatever scrutiny from DOT, and you reassemble the car. Then what? Walk into the Atlanta AAA office and hand them the German title?
Old 11-20-2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Ok, so you get a pile of parts including a shell with a VIN into the country without incurring whatever scrutiny from DOT, and you reassemble the car. Then what? Walk into the Atlanta AAA office and hand them the German title?
Old 11-20-2014 | 05:34 PM
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For sure it needs a lot of love, if you have the time and resources it can be a real collector the CS is a real sought-after on the 928 world. I sill have one of a few road test of a LHD model by road&track



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Old 11-20-2014 | 06:01 PM
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Wow, could you copy the rest of that article here for all to see?
Old 11-20-2014 | 06:24 PM
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While it would be really nice to have the title as part of the documentation, no title would be required in Georgia. All you need is a bill of sale on a vehicle that old.

The RoW VIN might cause a bit of difficulty...
Old 11-20-2014 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom. M
So..what parts are unique in the CS...

engine block
A/C unit (smaller)
interior had cloth stripes (mostly)
transmission was a G28/55
rims were CS 8" and 9"
sticker on the fenders
no sunroof
most of the other stuff was shared with the S4/GTs?

I would say if the block and trans are useable (original) you could bring it back to near original condition with other parts and still call it a CS (esp if the VIN is a CS vin)...
285 lb less than a typical S4
Old 11-21-2014 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN 911
285 lb less than a typical S4
Well, there are not very typical S4...

Official weight is 1580 kg (all tanks full) for an S4.
I have checked this with my 1987 S4 that was quite difficult to find because I want it as light as possible. Its only option was the alarm. This is a Euro manual S4 without sunroof, speed control, catalysator, hi-fi...
It weights 1571 kg with all tanks full.
This is coherent with the 1568 kg measured by Auto-Motor und Sport.
With sport seats, you can save some kilos.

The lightest "CS" was certainly the very first prototype. No AC and so on...
1443 kg.
All the production cars I have seen have at least one option.
A "regular" CS is certainly around 1480 to 1520 kg.

My 1989 was around 1520 kg, but 1989 are heavier with RDK, new dashboard, no specific electrical harnesses and mine was delivered with central door locking, AC and even electric seats.
Old 11-21-2014 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 928cs
Well, there are not very typical S4...

Official weight is 1580 kg (all tanks full) for an S4.
I have checked this with my 1987 S4 that was quite difficult to find because I want it as light as possible. Its only option was the alarm. This is a Euro manual S4 without sunroof, speed control, catalysator, hi-fi...
It weights 1571 kg with all tanks full.
This is coherent with the 1568 kg measured by Auto-Motor und Sport.
With sport seats, you can save some kilos.

The lightest "CS" was certainly the very first prototype. No AC and so on...
1443 kg.
All the production cars I have seen have at least one option.
A "regular" CS is certainly around 1480 to 1520 kg.

My 1989 was around 1520 kg, but 1989 are heavier with RDK, new dashboard, no specific electrical harnesses and mine was delivered with central door locking, AC and even electric seats.
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