Chuck Schreiber

Trying to finish up the last few things underhood on the 79. Last thing to do is the 2 flexible fuel lines. According to everyone I've talked to, they are discontinued.
These go from the CIS over the camcover on passenger side and head down to the frame rail and pick up hard line again down low. I've talked to classic tube http://www.classictube.com/ and they can rebuild them. They seem to be pretty professional, but jees, they take like 3 weeks to do it. So, 1 week from, DFW, 3 weeks to rebuild, 1 week to ship back, we're talking 5 weeks!!
Local shops say that rebuilding a fuel line is highly specialized because it's got "liablility" attached to it. Looking for a quicker way. Any ideas?

Also, looks like a complete Pain in the arss to get at the conectors. Any help is appreciated. $&*T, I know Randy has to have been there seeing his whole friggin motor is polished to a T. Randy, any ideas??!!

Thanks guys.

Nicole

Please don't talk that disrespectful of your 928. It might be older than some others, but calling it "old bugger" sounds quite negative. It doesn't deserve that kind of treatment... :-(

Chuck Schreiber

Nicole,

Thanks for the benefit of the doubt. And yes it's in good shape, only 59K on the odo. But I gotta say, you are staying up way to late reading these threads.

Hope you had a good time at Devek this year!

V-Fib

Ahh, but it is with great love and affection that we call them OB's.
Chuck, are your lines shot, or are you just being a perfectionist and just can't stand the sight of the old lines? (I know the feeling) A used set won't do? The track drivers should be able to answer this one, I'm sure they have dealt with this.



Anthony Tate
79/928 Silver Metallic
(Old Bugger Too)

Chuck Schreiber

Anthony,

My car is only a few serial #'s away from yours. 25 years old and going strong. Actually, they're cracked and while I've got the coolant resv. out and access above and below, I wanted to get it done.

$IYT, I've got to do something to keep the Silver 79 one up on you. You're gonna have a Euro motor way before I do, but I'm gonna have some nice lookin fuel lines boss!!!

Dennis Wilson

Chuck,

The fuel lines crossing the engine on both of my 78 OB's are metal instead of flex. They do connect to flexible lines which run back to the tank. If yours has been modified to flex lines, it may be prone to vapor locking during hot weather, stop and go driving. Have you contacted any of the big three to see if they have a used set of supply and return lines?

Nicole, the term Old Bugger has been used for at least three years on this forum and the e mail list. The term "Old Bugger" is English and is not meant to be derogatory in any sense. Some say an OB is defined as an early 928 with a K Jetronic CIS fuel system while others say the 78 and 79 MY's are the only OB since they were the last to be team built rather than prodction line cars. Others have attempted to sneak into the OB class but have been staunchly repeled.

Dennis

Chuck Schreiber

Dennis,

Yes, Hard lines to the end of the camcover and then flexible rubber lines down to the framerail by the passenger's feet, and then they connect to hardlines which run back to the tank. to my knowledge These lines have never been touched since the car car rolled out of Germany. They are severely cracked and need to be replaced.

I'm just ready to get it back on the road. 10 months and counting!!!!!!!

Nicole

I know that the term is not new. It just bugs me (especially to see it in a header), because it SOUNDS derogatory to me. It sounds like rusty or wrinkled, and continuously bugging you (like a really old person who can't shut up).

And with 59k miles your "old bugger" isn't even as well broken in as my 77k miles '91 model - which used to bug me until I got everything fixed.

I'm up working on projects. It's not even midnight here in CA!

Yes, DEVEK Days were a lot of fun! Nice to see all my fellow 928 enthusiasts and meet lots of new ones. And I love those fun drives, even though I am usually in the slower group. I wish I could make mine "dance" the way Dennis K. does with his race car...

Dennis Wilson

Chuck,

Not sure about Plano TX, but in Tulsa there are shops that can rebuild or repair your high pressure fuel lines. May want to check your yellow pages for "hydraulic" parts or supplies. These shops are fairly common in the "oil patch". BTW, these lines usually have an inner liner (the high pressure type) and an outer rubber shell for cushioning and heat absorbsion.

Dennis

Chuck Schreiber

Dennis,

Maybe I haven't hit the right shop yet. I've talked to about 6 shops that rebuild hydraulic, A/C, and P. steering lines but will not touch fuel lines. They say it's a liability thing (like brake lines). I'll keep searching locally as I want some quick turnaround time. The thing is, if you let some Yay hoo do it and they leak, you are "Hosed"-no pun intended, as it's right next to the passenger side exhaust manifold.

Old Bugger, Old Bugger, Old Bugger. Sorry Nicole I just had to get that out!!

Randy V

Chuck, I had a local hose shop rebuild mine - something like $25 apiece.

Yep, removal and installation is tough - not easy ways around this one I'm afraid.

Dennis Wilson

<Old Bugger, Old Bugger, Old Bugger. Sorry Nicole I just had to get that out!!>

Chuck, you are bad!!!!

Have you given any thought to buying the parts and assembling your own line?

Dennis

Chuck Schreiber

Randy,

I was just hoping there might be some easy trick. (Wishfull thinking)

Dennis, I don't really know where to start on rebuilding something like that. The last thing I want to do is to try a first attempt on something that is so "mission critical" One leak there and she's "Up in Smoke" like Cheech and Chong!

I did talk to a couple of shops on Sat. morning that said they'd look and try it. I'll call around this week and hopefully get a few more local answers.

T_MaX

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Aeroquip

Earl's performance plumbing

Russell

Chuck Schreiber

Thanks Max,

Sure looks better than my rusted out cracked lines!