Engine Wiring Harness - New Product 928sRus
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Here's a pic of my harness... Had lots of weird issues like random no starts, loss of excitation circuit, oil level sender etc. When I pulled it, it appeared to have chafed on the area where it goes from the front of the block through and down to the starter. There is a holding clamp there that is usually not replaced when the engine is worked on (difficult to get to in the first place). After fixing it, every little gremlin I had before was gone....
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I made them as close to the factory as I could, plug and play even down to the wires are exactly as they show on the wiring diagram.
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Biggest issue right now is finding the time to actually make them. I was waiting on parts Saturday so spent the day making the two that Rog has on hand.
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Biggest issue right now is finding the time to actually make them. I was waiting on parts Saturday so spent the day making the two that Rog has on hand.
Sean, have you built a nail-board yet for cutting and assembling these? More than a few limited-production-car harnesses are "manufactured" on a plywood panel with nails and temporary (velcro) wraps stapled on to hold the bundles as they are gathered prior to loom/sleeve steps. Guessing that the longest conductor is somewhere less than maybe ten feet (starter to jump post) so you could do it with just a couple bends. Guessing also that you could batch-cut most of the smaller conductors once you know the exact lengths (plus a nail-wrap allowance).
Alan and I have mentioned a few times the desire to improve the size of the primary power conductors, and to separate that and the 50 (white) solenoid conductors from each other and from the more sensitive conductors in the loom, maybe with glass wrap or Firesleeve. Since you are still early in the pilot manufacturing stages, this might be a standard or upgrade/option to offer.
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Great news for owners with extra-crispy wiring harnesses. Kudos to Sean and Roger for taking this on.
Sean, have you built a nail-board yet for cutting and assembling these? More than a few limited-production-car harnesses are "manufactured" on a plywood panel with nails and temporary (velcro) wraps stapled on to hold the bundles as they are gathered prior to loom/sleeve steps. Guessing that the longest conductor is somewhere less than maybe ten feet (starter to jump post) so you could do it with just a couple bends. Guessing also that you could batch-cut most of the smaller conductors once you know the exact lengths (plus a nail-wrap allowance).
Alan and I have mentioned a few times the desire to improve the size of the primary power conductors, and to separate that and the 50 (white) solenoid conductors from each other and from the more sensitive conductors in the loom, maybe with glass wrap or Firesleeve. Since you are still early in the pilot manufacturing stages, this might be a standard or upgrade/option to offer.
Sean, have you built a nail-board yet for cutting and assembling these? More than a few limited-production-car harnesses are "manufactured" on a plywood panel with nails and temporary (velcro) wraps stapled on to hold the bundles as they are gathered prior to loom/sleeve steps. Guessing that the longest conductor is somewhere less than maybe ten feet (starter to jump post) so you could do it with just a couple bends. Guessing also that you could batch-cut most of the smaller conductors once you know the exact lengths (plus a nail-wrap allowance).
Alan and I have mentioned a few times the desire to improve the size of the primary power conductors, and to separate that and the 50 (white) solenoid conductors from each other and from the more sensitive conductors in the loom, maybe with glass wrap or Firesleeve. Since you are still early in the pilot manufacturing stages, this might be a standard or upgrade/option to offer.
I've got a board that I was using to hold the old harness so I could keep everything in place for measurement. The wife and I made a few spread sheets with measurements, type of wire, color, end connectors etc and so far found it simpler to read it and pull the length from the rack and cut. Then put the ends on.
I did think about keeping the BC wires separate and it would be easy to do so but have not thus far because I wanted them to be as close to factory as can be. I've got enough fire wrap in multiple sizes so I can do if anyone were to request it. As for wire size, I have BC4 to BC10 for primary as I initially made a couple with BC4....way over sized so picked up the additional sizes. One thing I noticeable is Porsche thought at the time a tinned copper was the way to go and everything and everyone I talked to said solid copper is how it should have been done. That's what I'm using.
I honestly didn't even want to take this sort of project on but had one 82 Euro that needed one badly and Porsche wanted $2600.00 for the harness. At that point it was simpler for me to spend that $2600.00 on wire/supplies/tools and get it done myself instead of wondering if Porsche was going to have another one when I needed. We used the last '87/'88 harnesses last month and they couldn't tell us when another would be in production. It's been quite the venture talking with so many different distribution centers to get the best price and the correct stuff. Has been fun. I told Roger last week to not announce anything as I didn't want more orders than I could fulfill. I guess handing him a couple of 87+ ones egged him on to post. I just want to keep as many of these on the road as we can.
I'm quite open to suggestions and as you said, still in its infancy here.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
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This is absolutely necessary. I just spent hours trying to go through my entire harness to ensure it is still in good condition but that doesn't mean that there couldn't be brittle wiring somewhere in the sheath that I didn't bother to check. If I would have known about this, I would have waited and just purchased a new harness.
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But man, what a great project, and what intestinal fortitude to take it on. Any signs of heat stroke recently?...
#28
This is absolutely necessary. I just spent hours trying to go through my entire harness to ensure it is still in good condition but that doesn't mean that there could be brittle wiring somewhere in the sheath that I didn't bother to check. If I would have known about this, I would have waited and just purchased a new harness.