Alan

In Phoenix in summer with a heat soaked car the rear air really doesn't help much... the system limit is the condensor capacity.

Turning on the rear air under those conditions simply makes the front air warmer. It may still actually cool the car temperature down faster... but it doesn't feel like it - having cooler air blowing at you always feels better and cools 'you' better.

It is nice for rear seat passengers - but that's rare. I think it would be best for somewhere not so hot but more humid - it would definitely dehumidify much faster.

I honestly don't use mine much...

Alan

Hobibill

I am looking at every 928 out there. I am drawn to lower mileage examples but find that the mileage is about as accurate as on BMW2002's, the odometer means nothing. I am checking the mechanical condition of each car and have really benifitted from the feedback from this and other forums.

Other than knowing that I need to do the TB refresh, how is this one mechanically neglected? And please do fill me in on the seat thing. I have looked at each picture of the interior and can't figure out what the issue might be. Oh, and BTW, I am not planning to drive more than 5k a year, too many cars to spread the driving joy with;-)

More detailed pictures are coming.

SteveG

Not clear what Porsche said or if it's just generally accepted accounting practices: usu the numbers quoted on the Tbelt are 5 years or 60,000 whichever happens first. It's usu the 5 years and many people run past this, YMMV. It's an insurance/peace of mind thing, the cost being minimal compared to valves. The reason I connected belt age and coolant is that many people neglect the coolant (2 years). Old coolant will become acidic and eat at the head gasket. The difference here is that a new belt/wp re-starts the clock at zero, changing coolant does not undo damage done.

Unless you can talk w/PO or the garage and trust him? the only way to determine age is a receipt.

Kevin in Atlanta

That is a stunning car for the money. Period.

Alan

Overall I think this is a much more interesting car, looks to have been cared for.

Certainly seems worth finding out more on this one... if interested do then get a PPI from a good mechanic - 928 specific knowledge is a big value add.

Alan

rnixon

Do you know the car?

Kevin in Atlanta

No, but low miles, draped leather sports seats, very clean engine bay - all the signs of a well kept car.

rnixon

There are some encouraging signs, but some less so too. For example, it's not had the TB & WP done / documented. I've seen a few that looked good on paper, but were disappointing in person.

ROG100

Look like a great car - ditch the wheels. Sport seats look stock to me and heat is a rare option.
TB&WP are easy to do so knock $2k off the price and you have a sweet ride.

Alan

Agree - but those aren't draped leather seats - sports seats yes.
I suspect draped leather wasn't a common finish on sports seats (if even offered).

Alan

dr bob

I'm not sure that a draped-leather sport seat is possible. Why would you look for relatively-loose pillow coverings with taut side bolsters?

Otherwise, if the cosmetics please you, get a mechanical PPI and go for it if you like it.

On the TB/WP-- There's typically $1-1.5k in parts needed for this project on a 100k car, plus labor costs. If it's been done in the last few years it's not a negotiating point. If not or no documentation of it, it can be a negotiating tool for some of the costs maybe. My new-owner guidance is tha the car will need some $5k in first-year rubber parts to make it a reliable driver, and you can factor out of that things that have already been replaced. If there are hard parts needed too, that's additional. Reality is that, unless you are buying someone's pride-and-joy with everything up to date (happens very infrequently and almost never in a public sale), you need to include this in your own ownership-figuring numbers. It's not a discount you can claim from a seller, it's already in the price (was $73k, now less than $20k...). It's what you will need to budget in addition to the sale price.

DKWalser

Alan - I don't disagree. My car is usually parked in a garage (two levels below ground at work), so its usually not heat soaked. On my afternoon commute home, I've noticed that I can be comfortable with the front fan at a lower setting if I have the rear air on. If I leave the rear off, the car seems to heat up quicker and I have to turn the fan up on the front A/C. Since I don't like the sound of the fan or the feel of moving air, I like being able to keep the front fan's setting as low as possible.

If I've parked the car in the sun, I turn the rear air off, open the sun roof and windows and try to allow the as much heat as possible to be carried out of the car. Running both A/C units under such circumstances only results in blowing warm air into my face. Turning the rear A/C off gives me cooler air -- but I'm forced to put up with a higher fan setting than I'd like. Unfortunately, if my black interior has soaked up a lot of heat, it can take a long time for things to return to normal. By that time, I've usually reached my destination.

Alan

David - yep black interior doesn't help (black exterior doesn't help either...). I usually try to keep it out of the sun but can't always do that... takes quite a while to cool down...

Keep thinking about getting some cooled seats for the 928 - Paul Champagne was interested in a pilot program at one time... I have them in my Ford Explorer (TEC/Fan type) and they are great.

One day...

Alan

Hobibill

the seller and I have come to terms. final inspection next week then I fly to CLT and ride ashark to MEM . woohoo!

rnixon

Good luck - I hope that it's the right one for you.