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02-23-2014, 11:06 PM
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Hayden,
Happy to hear your new to you Porsche made it home w/o any fuss!
It is a beautiful car especially considering what you spent, as mentioned already you really lucked out finding an example without the rub strips, (i had to go through hell to get rid of mine!) and the paint and dash look great. Those are big pluses.
Very nice looking.
for fuse # 24 and the rest, a Guy named Alan put this together for us all:
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...relay-1984.pdf
Best,-Matt
Happy to hear your new to you Porsche made it home w/o any fuss!
It is a beautiful car especially considering what you spent, as mentioned already you really lucked out finding an example without the rub strips, (i had to go through hell to get rid of mine!) and the paint and dash look great. Those are big pluses.
Very nice looking.
for fuse # 24 and the rest, a Guy named Alan put this together for us all:
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...relay-1984.pdf
Best,-Matt
The dash has a couple of cracks on the gauge pod but the rest is perfect. Definitely need to fix that shift boot...
02-23-2014, 11:44 PM
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You may want to one day to disconnect the battery and go thru all the electrical, bulbs, fuse, grounds, cleaning the contacts, plugs to see if that helps
02-23-2014, 11:46 PM
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Hayden, if you look closely, or not even that closely, at the front lites on you 928 you will notice that to ones on the right side (passenger side) are somewhat recessed much further than the ones on the drivers side. That is because the front bumper has been impacted which has caused the bumper shock of that side to be collapsed. The bumper bar is an aluminum bar under the plastic/rubber bumper cover. It is mounted on two shocks; and they are each good for only one shock. They collapse as a result of the impact and then stay that way. They cannot be repaired, at least in any method I have ever heard of.
What you need to do is remove the front bumper cover, and that is a small chore, and then remove the bumper bar and replace the shocks. I would replace them both. They can be obtained for as little as about $20 each in good used condition; and just about any model of Porsche bumper shocks that have the same configuration can be used. They all pretty well bolt right up. I just went through this with my recently purchased 85.
It might very well be that your lite issue with the front lites is related to this isssue, but at least getting into it will likely give you a chance to check the lites out while you are in there. The reason the lites are displace to the rear is because they are mounted to the bumper bar under the cover.
The reason the bumper cover removal is such a small chore is that you need to remove a lot of stuff to get it off and back on. That includes the headlites out of their brackets so you can get to two or four of the bumper cover bolts or nuts. You are going to need to do some of this anyway to put the front spoiler and grill back on correctly, when you find them.
I don't know where you will find the front spoiler. I don't think 928 Int'l has any right now, but you should check. They do have some replacement grill bars and some fairly decent aftermarket grill uprights for reasonable prices. Give Mark A a call at 928 International. He and Tom are very helpful.
Give me a call if you want any further guidance about the removal since I have just done it and actually have not yet got it put fully back together. You may also be missing the brake vent ducts behind the cover, and maybe the front splash guards. Are the front wheel well liners there? If not you will want to get some replacements. I think the 83 or 84 had liners. My 85 does.
Glad to help if I can. 970 243 3658, or 243 8513 (day)
What you need to do is remove the front bumper cover, and that is a small chore, and then remove the bumper bar and replace the shocks. I would replace them both. They can be obtained for as little as about $20 each in good used condition; and just about any model of Porsche bumper shocks that have the same configuration can be used. They all pretty well bolt right up. I just went through this with my recently purchased 85.
It might very well be that your lite issue with the front lites is related to this isssue, but at least getting into it will likely give you a chance to check the lites out while you are in there. The reason the lites are displace to the rear is because they are mounted to the bumper bar under the cover.
The reason the bumper cover removal is such a small chore is that you need to remove a lot of stuff to get it off and back on. That includes the headlites out of their brackets so you can get to two or four of the bumper cover bolts or nuts. You are going to need to do some of this anyway to put the front spoiler and grill back on correctly, when you find them.
I don't know where you will find the front spoiler. I don't think 928 Int'l has any right now, but you should check. They do have some replacement grill bars and some fairly decent aftermarket grill uprights for reasonable prices. Give Mark A a call at 928 International. He and Tom are very helpful.
Give me a call if you want any further guidance about the removal since I have just done it and actually have not yet got it put fully back together. You may also be missing the brake vent ducts behind the cover, and maybe the front splash guards. Are the front wheel well liners there? If not you will want to get some replacements. I think the 83 or 84 had liners. My 85 does.
Glad to help if I can. 970 243 3658, or 243 8513 (day)
02-24-2014, 12:02 AM
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Hayden, if you look closely, or not even that closely, at the front lites on you 928 you will notice that to ones on the right side (passenger side) are somewhat recessed much further than the ones on the drivers side. That is because the front bumper has been impacted which has caused the bumper shock of that side to be collapsed. The bumper bar is an aluminum bar under the plastic/rubber bumper cover. It is mounted on two shocks; and they are each good for only one shock. They collapse as a result of the impact and then stay that way. They cannot be repaired, at least in any method I have ever heard of.
What you need to do is remove the front bumper cover, and that is a small chore, and then remove the bumper bar and replace the shocks. I would replace them both. They can be obtained for as little as about $20 each in good used condition; and just about any model of Porsche bumper shocks that have the same configuration can be used. They all pretty well bolt right up. I just went through this with my recently purchased 85.
It might very well be that your lite issue with the front lites is related to this isssue, but at least getting into it will likely give you a chance to check the lites out while you are in there. The reason the lites are displace to the rear is because they are mounted to the bumper bar under the cover.
The reason the bumper cover removal is such a small chore is that you need to remove a lot of stuff to get it off and back on. That includes the headlites out of their brackets so you can get to two or four of the bumper cover bolts or nuts. You are going to need to do some of this anyway to put the front spoiler and grill back on correctly.
I don't know where you will find the front spoiler. I don't think 928 Int'l has any right now, but you should check. They do have some replacement grill bars and some fairly decent aftermarket grill uprights for reasonable prices. Give Mark A a call at 928 International. He and Tom are very helpful.
Give me a call if you want any further guidance about the removal since I have just done it and actually have not yet got it put fully back together. You may also be missing the brake vent ducts behind the cover, and maybe the front splash guards. Are the front wheel well liners there? If not you will want to get some replacements. I think the 83 or 84 had liners. My 85 does.
Glad to help if I can. 970 243 3658, or 243 8513 (day)
What you need to do is remove the front bumper cover, and that is a small chore, and then remove the bumper bar and replace the shocks. I would replace them both. They can be obtained for as little as about $20 each in good used condition; and just about any model of Porsche bumper shocks that have the same configuration can be used. They all pretty well bolt right up. I just went through this with my recently purchased 85.
It might very well be that your lite issue with the front lites is related to this isssue, but at least getting into it will likely give you a chance to check the lites out while you are in there. The reason the lites are displace to the rear is because they are mounted to the bumper bar under the cover.
The reason the bumper cover removal is such a small chore is that you need to remove a lot of stuff to get it off and back on. That includes the headlites out of their brackets so you can get to two or four of the bumper cover bolts or nuts. You are going to need to do some of this anyway to put the front spoiler and grill back on correctly.
I don't know where you will find the front spoiler. I don't think 928 Int'l has any right now, but you should check. They do have some replacement grill bars and some fairly decent aftermarket grill uprights for reasonable prices. Give Mark A a call at 928 International. He and Tom are very helpful.
Give me a call if you want any further guidance about the removal since I have just done it and actually have not yet got it put fully back together. You may also be missing the brake vent ducts behind the cover, and maybe the front splash guards. Are the front wheel well liners there? If not you will want to get some replacements. I think the 83 or 84 had liners. My 85 does.
Glad to help if I can. 970 243 3658, or 243 8513 (day)
02-24-2014, 12:15 AM
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I wait to do a lot of things that I have that need to be done. However, I was thinking that the issue with the front lites might be important for doing pretty soon. If so, you can do all the front bumper cover removal and replacement any time and then just add the spoiler and grill when you can buy them later. Your only expense to the bumper issue will be the shocks, and any repairs or replacements relating to the lites.
02-24-2014, 11:10 PM
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Hayden, if you look closely, or not even that closely, at the front lites on you 928 you will notice that to ones on the right side (passenger side) are somewhat recessed much further than the ones on the drivers side. That is because the front bumper has been impacted which has caused the bumper shock of that side to be collapsed. The bumper bar is an aluminum bar under the plastic/rubber bumper cover. It is mounted on two shocks; and they are each good for only one shock. They collapse as a result of the impact and then stay that way. They cannot be repaired, at least in any method I have ever heard of.
What you need to do is remove the front bumper cover, and that is a small chore, and then remove the bumper bar and replace the shocks. I would replace them both. They can be obtained for as little as about $20 each in good used condition; and just about any model of Porsche bumper shocks that have the same configuration can be used. They all pretty well bolt right up. I just went through this with my recently purchased 85.
It might very well be that your lite issue with the front lites is related to this isssue, but at least getting into it will likely give you a chance to check the lites out while you are in there. The reason the lites are displace to the rear is because they are mounted to the bumper bar under the cover.
The reason the bumper cover removal is such a small chore is that you need to remove a lot of stuff to get it off and back on. That includes the headlites out of their brackets so you can get to two or four of the bumper cover bolts or nuts. You are going to need to do some of this anyway to put the front spoiler and grill back on correctly, when you find them.
I don't know where you will find the front spoiler. I don't think 928 Int'l has any right now, but you should check. They do have some replacement grill bars and some fairly decent aftermarket grill uprights for reasonable prices. Give Mark A a call at 928 International. He and Tom are very helpful.
Give me a call if you want any further guidance about the removal since I have just done it and actually have not yet got it put fully back together. You may also be missing the brake vent ducts behind the cover, and maybe the front splash guards. Are the front wheel well liners there? If not you will want to get some replacements. I think the 83 or 84 had liners. My 85 does.
Glad to help if I can. 970 243 3658, or 243 8513 (day)
What you need to do is remove the front bumper cover, and that is a small chore, and then remove the bumper bar and replace the shocks. I would replace them both. They can be obtained for as little as about $20 each in good used condition; and just about any model of Porsche bumper shocks that have the same configuration can be used. They all pretty well bolt right up. I just went through this with my recently purchased 85.
It might very well be that your lite issue with the front lites is related to this isssue, but at least getting into it will likely give you a chance to check the lites out while you are in there. The reason the lites are displace to the rear is because they are mounted to the bumper bar under the cover.
The reason the bumper cover removal is such a small chore is that you need to remove a lot of stuff to get it off and back on. That includes the headlites out of their brackets so you can get to two or four of the bumper cover bolts or nuts. You are going to need to do some of this anyway to put the front spoiler and grill back on correctly, when you find them.
I don't know where you will find the front spoiler. I don't think 928 Int'l has any right now, but you should check. They do have some replacement grill bars and some fairly decent aftermarket grill uprights for reasonable prices. Give Mark A a call at 928 International. He and Tom are very helpful.
Give me a call if you want any further guidance about the removal since I have just done it and actually have not yet got it put fully back together. You may also be missing the brake vent ducts behind the cover, and maybe the front splash guards. Are the front wheel well liners there? If not you will want to get some replacements. I think the 83 or 84 had liners. My 85 does.
Glad to help if I can. 970 243 3658, or 243 8513 (day)
02-24-2014, 11:58 PM
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Try this--from recent memory:
Remove the front WW liners.
Remove the front plastic spash shields.
Turn the headlights on so they rotate up then turn the key off so they stay up, and while they are up take the body colored covers off and then disconnect the lites and take the lites out of their u-shaped brackets.
Remove the metal trim along the top front center edge of the bumper cover.
Remove all of the nuts that hold the bumper cover on under each side from the inside. There are 10 or 12 on each side. The top two nearest the center are the toughest. You can get to the second one from the centeral direction with an extension and an 8mm socket and quarter inch drivefairly easily. The most central one is tougher and you will have to locate it and remove it by feel. Putting it back on is even more tricky since you will need a flashlite and a mirror to help and you will need to put the nut into the socket and hold it in the socket with%
Darn. I tried to correct some typos and lost the rest of this post. It looks like it is saved in a later quote, so I won't try to redo it.
Remove the front WW liners.
Remove the front plastic spash shields.
Turn the headlights on so they rotate up then turn the key off so they stay up, and while they are up take the body colored covers off and then disconnect the lites and take the lites out of their u-shaped brackets.
Remove the metal trim along the top front center edge of the bumper cover.
Remove all of the nuts that hold the bumper cover on under each side from the inside. There are 10 or 12 on each side. The top two nearest the center are the toughest. You can get to the second one from the centeral direction with an extension and an 8mm socket and quarter inch drivefairly easily. The most central one is tougher and you will have to locate it and remove it by feel. Putting it back on is even more tricky since you will need a flashlite and a mirror to help and you will need to put the nut into the socket and hold it in the socket with%
Darn. I tried to correct some typos and lost the rest of this post. It looks like it is saved in a later quote, so I won't try to redo it.
Last edited by Jerry Feather; 02-25-2014 at 01:02 AM.
02-25-2014, 12:02 AM
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P.S. Do all of this with the car up on jack stands where it will be handy to work on. You also need to take the front wheels off..
02-25-2014, 12:10 AM
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Try this--from recent memory:
Remove the front WW liners.
Remove the front plastic spash shields.
Turn the headlights on so they rotate up then turn the key off so they stay up, and while they are up take the body colored cover off and then disconnect the lites and take the lites out of their u-shaped brackets.
Remove the metal trim along the top front center edge of the bumper cover.
Remove all of the nuts that hold the bumper cover on under each side from the inside. There are 10 or 12 on each side. The top two nearest the center are the toughest. You can get to the second one from the centeral direction with an extension and an 8mm socket and quarter inch drivefairly easily. The most central one is tougher and you will have to locate it and remove it by feel. Putting it back on is even more tricky since you will need a flashlite and a mirror to help and you will need to put the nut into the socket and holed it inthe socket with a bit of masking tape.
When all of these are removed the bumper cover will come off, but the headlite washers will still be hooked up, so disconnect them. Then the cover is off the car, I think.
Now the bumper is exposed and you will find that the lite assemblies can be accessed. The bumper itself can be removed by taking out the verticle bolts that are down through the shocks. Then lay the bumper on something just below where it is fastened and remove the four bolts holding the shocks. The shocks come right out, but I had an issue with one of the bolts either one down through the shock or one holding the shock, that required some bending of the bolt as I recall.
Now, put the new shocks in with or without the gaskets that might have come with the replacements, even used ones. I think the originals did not use gaskets on the 928. I don't think it matters either way.
Then rehang the bumper. But before you put the cover back on be sure to pay some attention to the position of the lites on each end of the bumper especially in relation to each other so that the black bezel/trim fits over them nicely. Then redo you wiring to get them correct.
Then rehang the Cover. Again, you will need a lite and a mirror to put the most central nut on its stud from the rear through the headlite opening.
Put the rest of it all back tobether.
When you get the new spoiler and grill and vent grills and vent ducts you can put them in then rehang the splash guards and WW liners.
I think you will be done.
Remove the front WW liners.
Remove the front plastic spash shields.
Turn the headlights on so they rotate up then turn the key off so they stay up, and while they are up take the body colored cover off and then disconnect the lites and take the lites out of their u-shaped brackets.
Remove the metal trim along the top front center edge of the bumper cover.
Remove all of the nuts that hold the bumper cover on under each side from the inside. There are 10 or 12 on each side. The top two nearest the center are the toughest. You can get to the second one from the centeral direction with an extension and an 8mm socket and quarter inch drivefairly easily. The most central one is tougher and you will have to locate it and remove it by feel. Putting it back on is even more tricky since you will need a flashlite and a mirror to help and you will need to put the nut into the socket and holed it inthe socket with a bit of masking tape.
When all of these are removed the bumper cover will come off, but the headlite washers will still be hooked up, so disconnect them. Then the cover is off the car, I think.
Now the bumper is exposed and you will find that the lite assemblies can be accessed. The bumper itself can be removed by taking out the verticle bolts that are down through the shocks. Then lay the bumper on something just below where it is fastened and remove the four bolts holding the shocks. The shocks come right out, but I had an issue with one of the bolts either one down through the shock or one holding the shock, that required some bending of the bolt as I recall.
Now, put the new shocks in with or without the gaskets that might have come with the replacements, even used ones. I think the originals did not use gaskets on the 928. I don't think it matters either way.
Then rehang the bumper. But before you put the cover back on be sure to pay some attention to the position of the lites on each end of the bumper especially in relation to each other so that the black bezel/trim fits over them nicely. Then redo you wiring to get them correct.
Then rehang the Cover. Again, you will need a lite and a mirror to put the most central nut on its stud from the rear through the headlite opening.
Put the rest of it all back tobether.
When you get the new spoiler and grill and vent grills and vent ducts you can put them in then rehang the splash guards and WW liners.
I think you will be done.
02-25-2014, 12:36 AM
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A couple of additional things you will encounter and will want to deal with are the alternator vent tubing which you might want to replace, and the deteriorated foam in the channels around the edges of the splash shields. I replaced the foam in mine with some round closed cell foam from the hardware store that is about 3/4 inch round or more or less, I don't remember--maybe even an inch. Measure the channel and then decide. I used a size that lets about an eighth of an inch still be exposed so it will make the seal you want. I think it will take about 9 feet of foam to do the channel on both sides. I cleaned the channel out with my finger then used some 3M adhesive cleaner from the auto paint store.
02-25-2014, 10:39 AM
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The Closed cell foam round strips I used the fill the channels fits snugly enough that I didn't use any adhesive to install them. I haven't put my shields back in yet, so later I'll take a couple of pictures and post them. I'll also verify the size of the foam strips.
02-25-2014, 12:02 PM
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Here are a few pictures of my front end project. The Seal material I bought is one inch in diameter. I think I bought about 10 feet and had almost a foot left over, but I can't find the drop. I would buy ten feet again.
I'm also showing some general pictures of the front end for the lite position and for the brake vent underneath. I had to do some reforming of the vent with my heat gun so it was true again because when it was impacted I think it deformed them. I still have the other side to do.
I'm showing some pictures of the grill bars and uprights. One of the bars and all three of the uprights came from 928 Intl. The bent and broken ones I took out are in one of these pictures also.
Hope this helps.
Oh, I also show a picture of the Cowl Cover that I make and put one of in this car. Do you need one of those for your 84?
I'm also showing some general pictures of the front end for the lite position and for the brake vent underneath. I had to do some reforming of the vent with my heat gun so it was true again because when it was impacted I think it deformed them. I still have the other side to do.
I'm showing some pictures of the grill bars and uprights. One of the bars and all three of the uprights came from 928 Intl. The bent and broken ones I took out are in one of these pictures also.
Hope this helps.
Oh, I also show a picture of the Cowl Cover that I make and put one of in this car. Do you need one of those for your 84?
02-25-2014, 08:58 PM
#45
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if the paint is original and still shiny (even with the scratches and chips) it makes your 928 more valuable than if repainted to many Porsche collectors imo.
I have repainted a Porsche or two like yours and regretted it even though the new paint was nice. It can never be original again!
I had to paint mine due to clear coat failure and some corrosion beginning under the rear spoiler and in the quarter window channels. Couldn't blend it. Anyway to make a long post short;
keep the original paint and carefully detail it after you have done the important stuff like inspected your timing belt (TB)
Also go through and clean all your grounds.
Good luck with the car it's very nice, -Matt