NoVector

Well, this will certainly improve Irish-British relations… Anyway, IF it is terminal, I didn’t see any used engines on the UK or Ireland e-Bay. But, more than a few on German e-Bay in case you need to go that route… Good luck!

BTW – Took Ryan Air to Dublin last weekend and then the bus tour to Cork. Beautiful country you have there.

fonetico

Ah! Kaiserslautern!

Brings back fond memories of when I worked in Aachen and bought my first 924. Several times drove it down to Kaiserslautern for the occasional Gastspiel at the Pfalztheater.

Never liked the Mosel wine though. Much prefer the full-bodied reds.

FredR

Very sorry to read of your experience- seems "the luck of the Irish" does not always hold true.

I doubt you have any legal recourse but you should enquire. The only positive suggestion I can make is that in a worst case scenario contac Paul Anderson at Stroud. He would probably know if there are any spare motors around [he may have one] and knows yourmotor inside out which your mechanic may not. Either way, first of all you need to know what is wrong. Like some of our listers have said all ready this has the hall marks of a failure of the engine cooler coil in the left hand side of the radiator end tank as sat in the driver's seat. It is relatively easy to pull the radiator out and check for damage in this circuit but that would only confirm the root cause of the failure. Until you know the extent of the damage anything else is pure speculation and somewhat pointless. Let's just hope it is minimal.

Regards

Fred

Hilton

Sorry, but thats rubbish. The continuing to run problem is a separate failure to the oil/coolant failure. Unfortunate, as it may have contributed to the engine damage by preventing you turning the engine off.

Oddball question - did you have the rear demister on? The rear demister relay can stick and keep the ignition running with the key in the off position (there are a few posts about it here if you search).

Please sign up for the UK mailing list, and ask for a recommendation for a 928-savvy mechanic in Ireland. There's at least a few Irish people on the list - and if you've got time pressure to get registered, the last thing you need is to be paying a mechanic to learn how to work on these cars.

This is also a good suggestion - as a purveyor of 928 bits, Paul may also know of a mechanic local to you.

comicbook8

get onto porsche club ireland website and forum and post
lots of cork members on there who will recommend a mech local
ken bulger at specialist cars ireland are in chapolizored in dublin ( highly recommend porsche expert )
brian kane in harmonstown motors also highly recommend
p.s join the club its the best 50 euro you will spend this year !!!!!

UKKid35

Firstly, very sorry to hear of your 'nightmare' - however as others have pointed out it could be a simple as a failed rad (assuming no other consequential damage).

Looking at the photos, it appears your 60k car has had a very hard life. The seat bolster and seat generally on yours looks worse than mine with 225k miles. Assuming your engine is running again soon, my main concern, apart from the internal corrosion that seems likely from the water pump area pics, is the state of the cam sprockets.

Unfortunately new sprockets are now insanely expensive, despite the best efforts of our favourite parts suppliers. Sadly the sprockets in your photos look as if they will severely shorten cam belt life. Whatever happens do not run that engine for more than 25k without either changing the belt or very thoroughly inspecting the cam belt system.

snoz

What happens if you don't register the car in 30 days?

Fogey1

Nobody said "the luck of the Irish" was always good, especially when dealing with their neighbors from the east.

P.S. Good Luck. And if you end up stuck with the car don't give up - consider what Glyn says above.

BehindTheWall

Hi. With registration is not that bad. They will charge me 0.1% from 200e every day when the car is unregistered, so 12c per day . On Monday I will have car checked by mechanic and we will see. Maybe it's not so bad as it looks.

PHIL928

If a mechanic says that an ignition combustion engine can run on oil, then I would stay well away from him...
It will cost you way way more in the long run if you take it to a non-928 specialist.
1.) because you are paying for the time it takes them to figure what a 928 is.
2.) garages are there to make money, unfortunately this "get the job done" mentality means that a 928 suffers much more than your average car.

Got the t-shirt.

danglerb

Few things more expensive on a 928 than a mechanic, even a Porsche mechanic that doesn't know them well. In your case you really need someone expert in the 928 to sort out what is wrong, and my best suggestion to you would be to ignore distance and go with the best you can locate.

Disneyland in Anaheim Calif is very nice right now, and Greg Brown's shop is just a dozen miles away.

Maybach_Man

And the relevance of this comment to the thread is??????????????????????????

fonetico

I confess that I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to posting flippant and frivolous comments that are of no help to anyone. Usually, as in this case, they follow a liquid lunch and for this I apologise.

However, there is a good and serious intention behind them.

Time after time we see enthusiasts whose one aim in life is to possess a 928 but are oblivious to the pitfalls. More importantly, they're oblivious to just how costly it can be, and I know, having been there and done that myself. It's the lamb to the slaughter syndrome.

The caveat emptor - buyer beware theme should be emblazoned across the Rennlist home page.

The comments above by Dan and Phil are so relevant. You need an expert to work on a 928. The average Porsche mechanic is fine with a 911 but hopeless with a 928.

I know hindsight is an exact science, but our man in Cork should have consulted the experts on this site BEFORE buying the car. Why did a car with only 60k on the clock need a complete rebuild? Either the 60k is wrong or it had been thrashed to death.

Paul Anderson has been mentioned here on various occasions. I see him far too frequently but he's worth the 200 mile round trip. I was there this week and as it happens he's working on restoring a car from relatively good condition to pristine showroom condition for a wealthy customer. So far it's cost £45k. Paul can amuse you all day with stories of new customers who've found a brilliant bargain, take the car to him and are greeted with a list of botched work and the ridiculous cost of putting it right.

I notice on this thread that some postings have attempted to sound reassuring. For example, one says "it may only need a new radiator" or words to this effect. I needed a radiator a few months back. Couldn't find one anywhere in the UK except from Porsche and that now costs almost £2k. I went to see Paul this week to replace, among other things, the rear ABS sensors. I bought the last 2 available in the UK and perhaps the world. They came from Germany and I was told they were the last 2 they could find. So what happens now?

I remember having my driver's seat re-upholstered last year. When I got the car back, the dash lights weren't working. My local Porsche mechanic virtually took the car apart and kept it for 2 months without success. In fact, it was worse as the headlamps weren't working. That's when I made the pilgrimage to Stroud to see Paul who found the fault in half an hour.

The point I'm trying to make is that a seemingly innocuous problem can prove incredibly expensive if you don't know what you're doing. In other words, don't buy a 928 unless you have a well-equipped workshop and are prepared to spend hours on this web site or with the WSM in your hand, or unless you know Paul Anderson and have deep pockets.

But above all, NEVER buy a 928 without expert advice!!!

As far as our man in Cork is concerned, I'm still convinced Mike's your man. I don't care how nice the seller appears to be, it's clearly in his interests to be, but this sounds bad. Knowing what I know now about 928s, this one feels like a ticking time bomb!

rgs944

It sounds like a complete overhaul was done so the oriiginal mechanic should be getting in there and seeing what happened. They bragged it up pretty good as a "new" engine. Maybe it was not there fault but they should be the ones trying to figure it out at this point. I have not read the entire thread but I would be asking for a complete refund from the seller at this point, or at least a complete repair. We rebuild a lot of Industrial engines and I would want one of our engines back if this ever happened. Things like this are also the reason I try to stay away from recent rebuilds on engines. I would much rather buy a welll running factory engine than take a chance on someone screwing up a rebuild.

jeff spahn

I agree 100% here. Greg brown did my PPI. I still have to do maintenance like TT, timing belt etc. Perhaps he just dives in and fixes it himself.