pcar928fan

Well, in the last post after your post in the other watch thread, I said, "I do not authorize you to use this watch design for your project."

SO...Here it is again. "As the leader of the team that designed the last 928 watch, I DO NOT authorize you to use our design for your watch."

Take RKD (who did our design) up on his offer. He will put something nice AND DIFFERENT together for you.

I actually considered doing another one with the silhouette sort of blunt at the nose and tail to signify the OB and S cars... Since the original was very S4/GTS in silhouette. I'd be happy for you to pull that off and at a more affordable price point.

MGW-Fla

At that price count me in. I a sucker for a Seiko anyways, best watch for under $500 that you can get, IMHO. Other than my 928 watch, all of my other six watches are a Seiko.

Nicole

What is the connection between the Seiko watches shown and the design of the 928?

MGW-Fla

I believe we could design the face of the watch to have a custom 928 look. Like was done with the Leica watches. Yes???

danglerb

I don't wear a watch, but here are a few face idea's.

Phone dial wheel.
Interior air temp vent.
Small images of each major model variation, side facing at 9/3, front facing 12/6.

granprixweiss928

I say no. dont make another.

Im looking to buy an original and if/when I do I want the limited run and exclusivity of that original one. and the value that brings. and that would apply Id think to anyone that owns one of the original 100.

Mark

Hilton

Just to clarify James, so that there's no risk of causing possible legal issues for anyone who decides to design their own 928 watch.. (as that would seem to be the implied threat?)

Exactly which design elements on that previous watch do you assert belong to you? The Porsche font? The 928 silhouette? The tacho markings? The central warning indicator from our cars? The numbers 9,2 and 8? Or, given those elements are all found elsewhere, do you just mean that specific layout of those elements?

RKD in OKC

By the same logic…since everything is made from elements of the periodic table, anything devised by man can be freely copied. Is that a Chinese philosophy?

The face design of the limited edition watch evolved along with the design of case and straps that's one of the reasons it looks so good. If that face is just copied and slapped in a Diver's watch case it would not look nearly as good. And if that face is used with the Seiko movement in a simpler case you are really just making a cheap copy of the limited edition watch.

I would certainly hope that if this group were to make a less expensive 928 themed watch, it would be different than the limited edition watch already made.

The first step of choosing the movement is a great starting place. Next you need to chose a case so you know the exact size of the face and the style it needs to match. Then we can kick around face designs to come up with another great watch and not a cheap copy of the existing watch.

MjRocket

Very Valid and well put...I wouldnt be interested in a copy of the original.

Shawn Stanford

No worries, James. I've already moved on. (I apologize, but I wasn't paying super-close attention to that thread after I realized that the original run was long gone.)

Seiko 7S26 movements mostly have the same face size. The difference being that the larger cases will have a chapter ring, the smaller ones will not.

I'm leaning toward a tachometer-based design with the '!' at the top (nice element). I'm not sold on the silhouette, but I'm not averse to it, either. Same with emphasizing the design numbers (9, 2, 8).

MGW-Fla

I have all the confidence in this group that we are collectively creative enough to come up with a design that does not end up as a cheaper replica of the original limited edition Leica watch. As well as a design that is a fitting tribute to one of the greatest cars ever made. The individual design elements of the Leica watch face are mostly all taken from Porsche, so you couldn't prevent them being reused. If you could, then the Leica watch would have never happened because Porsche would have sent a cease & desist letter.

But there is no reason to use any or all of those elements specifically & certainly not in the arrangement on the Leica watch. What would be the point of doing that? Surely if its not rushed, something suitable & fitting can result that most would approve of. Or at least those planning on buying one. I say this as an owner of #25 of the limited edition Leica.

I would LOVE an everyday watch as reliable & tough as a Seiko & not worry about preserving the pristine condition of my Leica. Yet be able to pay daily tribute to the car that I so love. At a price in the mid $100s, it'd be worth it to buy two! My limited edition Leica stays in a glass watch case on my dresser, only worn it a few times to big car events, etc. Simply because of it being a one time limited edition, and to me, it wasn't cheap, especially with the 2nd band added in. Kinda like buying a 5 speed GTS with 10k miles & keeping it on display in your garage rarely to drive it cause you want to keep it just as it is. You want a 928 to drive often & I'd love a 928 watch I could wear often.

Shawn Stanford

Here's what I'm talking about regarding the dial. All of these watch cases use the exact same sized dial.

This one has a 'chapter ring' to fill the case. You can make out the raised, indexed ring at the edge of the dail.


This is a Seiko 'Monster'. It uses a 7S26 movement and the same sized dial. You can see the chapter ring is quite large, the luminous indices are actually part of the chapter ring.


And here a Seiko 5 with no chapter ring. Same movement, same size dial.

AO

MGW-Fla

My vote is the Seiko 5 with no chapter ring, those look dated to me somehow. Less we're going to make it a tribute to the OB 928s. And if you must use the chapter ring, certainly not the large one, though the silver color ring looks better than the black to me. The ring would likely distract from the design on the face, whereas the 5 without the ring causes the eye to only see the face of the watch.

MjRocket

Id personally like to see it have a stainless steel band rather then the cloth or leather.