Anyone in the Buffalo area know this car?
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Yeah, that's the question. Even if they accept a lowball of $3.5k to $4k, am I going to be in over my head (or wallet)?
I wouldn't say I'm a great mechanic. I have a good set of tools, I can buy what I need, and I can follow instructions. For instance, looking at the TB/WP replacement instructions, I'm sure I can do it, but it will take me some time.
Well, bottom line: am I likely to find a example in better mechanical shape in the same price range?
I wouldn't say I'm a great mechanic. I have a good set of tools, I can buy what I need, and I can follow instructions. For instance, looking at the TB/WP replacement instructions, I'm sure I can do it, but it will take me some time.
Well, bottom line: am I likely to find a example in better mechanical shape in the same price range?
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Yeah, that's the question. Even if they accept a lowball of $3.5k to $4k, am I going to be in over my head (or wallet)?
I wouldn't say I'm a great mechanic. I have a good set of tools, I can buy what I need, and I can follow instructions. For instance, looking at the TB/WP replacement instructions, I'm sure I can do it, but it will take me some time.
Well, bottom line: am I likely to find a example in better mechanical shape in the same price range?
I wouldn't say I'm a great mechanic. I have a good set of tools, I can buy what I need, and I can follow instructions. For instance, looking at the TB/WP replacement instructions, I'm sure I can do it, but it will take me some time.
Well, bottom line: am I likely to find a example in better mechanical shape in the same price range?
Bottom line the car is rough. And with all the repairs in 2001, including rebuilding the half shafts, mileage has got to be higher.
There are at least a half a dozen cars close to Toronto that you could get for 5-7 k that are in way better condition than this one.
Good luck with what ever you decide Shawn.
Adam
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Personally I would buy it. But I'm also a sucker for color combinations like that. If it was black on black in the same condition I would pass.
Oh, that's nice. Reminds me I need to hurry up and make a hole in my garage for 928 #3..... It's time.
#35
Looks like a good buy on a nice unmolested car. If I hadn't just purchased an '88 S4, I'd buy that.
Check that - I just read Adam's assessment. Forget the lowball offer. Keep your money so when the right one pops up, you can pull the trigger without any conflicts.
Check that - I just read Adam's assessment. Forget the lowball offer. Keep your money so when the right one pops up, you can pull the trigger without any conflicts.
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The consensus seems to be to let it go. My text to the seller:
Oh, well. I'm not in any hurry. I just didn't want to miss a great deal on a nice car. This doesn't seem to be that.
Based on Adam's assessment, the car needs significant mechanical maintenance ($3-$4000), plus a lot of paint/body & interior refresh work. I'm going to pass. A shame, it's a nice color. Even if I didn't, I wouldn't be near your price. Sorry. Thanks for your time. Good luck with the sale.
#37
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If the paint is original and can be carefully brought up to looking decent it would be a nice car to own. The interior has potential too.
My first Porsche had original Prussian blue paint which looked dead when i bought it.
Lots of scratches and very sun damaged clear coat on the roof.
I compounded it lightly by hand and then waxed it about 10 times over the course of a month with the good original Zymoil and it looked great.
Original 30 year old paint can get away with a few scratches. Dents can be removed without painting. (didn't see those pics though)
Adam's idea of a 'pass' may be different than yours.
I'd go check it out yourself. If decent try $2500 on it or less,
it may turn out to be a very nice driver.
Bring cash.
#38
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It's pretty sad that a car like this is not worth $4,000??? What supercar that starts and drives can you buy for $4,000?.... not even the 928.... because it's worth less than that.
I guess the 928 is so unloved it ranks right up there with Aztec. If this was an early Ferrari 308 it would have to be complete write off to get it for this price...although I've never seen them priced under $10,000 regardless of the condition. I hear Ferrari part / restoration prices are worse then the 928. I own an early Lotus Turbo Esprit which are also unloved but I've never seen one for sale under $8,000 in any condition and quite frankly the 928 is better built, more reliable etc.
I remember when I bought my 964... I was advised by the Porsche community to stay away because of AWD issues, cylinder head leaks. I bought it because I wanted the traditional 911 look with all the modern comforts. I got mine for a steal back in 2005 and it's only now the Porsche community is starting to catch on that the issues were overblown and the car is an excellent driver, The values have started to rise but I firmly believe even the 964 is still too cheap for what you're getting.
I do believe the 928 values are turning a corner but sadly the last to catch on will be us existing owners.... we will fight it to the bitter end
I guess the 928 is so unloved it ranks right up there with Aztec. If this was an early Ferrari 308 it would have to be complete write off to get it for this price...although I've never seen them priced under $10,000 regardless of the condition. I hear Ferrari part / restoration prices are worse then the 928. I own an early Lotus Turbo Esprit which are also unloved but I've never seen one for sale under $8,000 in any condition and quite frankly the 928 is better built, more reliable etc.
I remember when I bought my 964... I was advised by the Porsche community to stay away because of AWD issues, cylinder head leaks. I bought it because I wanted the traditional 911 look with all the modern comforts. I got mine for a steal back in 2005 and it's only now the Porsche community is starting to catch on that the issues were overblown and the car is an excellent driver, The values have started to rise but I firmly believe even the 964 is still too cheap for what you're getting.
I do believe the 928 values are turning a corner but sadly the last to catch on will be us existing owners.... we will fight it to the bitter end
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The paint could be salvaged to a decent level. But the rear quarter damage will involve bondo and paint.
If it we're not for that damage I would say go for it.
But like my late father would always tell me. There is always another car.
If you are in love with the colour combo and are ok with 4k and 4k to get get her road worthy do it. If you want a car that can be driven fairly soon, just spend the 8 k on a car with a straight body and recent TB/WP.
Again just my 2 cents.
But I to hope someone saved it.
If it we're not for that damage I would say go for it.
But like my late father would always tell me. There is always another car.
If you are in love with the colour combo and are ok with 4k and 4k to get get her road worthy do it. If you want a car that can be driven fairly soon, just spend the 8 k on a car with a straight body and recent TB/WP.
Again just my 2 cents.
But I to hope someone saved it.
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Buy it, pay someone good money to do a real detail job (going to be $500+ unless you love doing that kind of work). Update the mechanicals and fix things as needed while enjoying the hell out of a 86.5 32V 928.
$4,000?? Adding a leather package to a new 911 costs more....... All things are relative I guess.
Buy it, pay someone good money to do a real detail job (going to be $500+ unless you love doing that kind of work). Update the mechanicals and fix things as needed while enjoying the hell out of a 86.5 32V 928.
$4,000?? Adding a leather package to a new 911 costs more....... All things are relative I guess.
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You up for a road trip, Matt? We can take my 951. I'll even buy the snacks!
Oh, man...
#44
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It's pretty sad that a car like this is not worth $4,000??? What supercar that starts and drives can you buy for $4,000?.... not even the 928.... because it's worth less than that.
I guess the 928 is so unloved it ranks right up there with Aztec. If this was an early Ferrari 308 it would have to be complete write off to get it for this price...although I've never seen them priced under $10,000 regardless of the condition..
I do believe the 928 values are turning a corner but sadly the last to catch on will be us existing owners.... we will fight it to the bitter end
I guess the 928 is so unloved it ranks right up there with Aztec. If this was an early Ferrari 308 it would have to be complete write off to get it for this price...although I've never seen them priced under $10,000 regardless of the condition..
I do believe the 928 values are turning a corner but sadly the last to catch on will be us existing owners.... we will fight it to the bitter end
It is just that the value has be be equal to or greater than the cost of a good repaint and the usual mechanical repairs.This car Shawn has interest in is worth $2000, because a good repaint will cost $5-6k. Who now what else it needs, control arm replace etc.. I would go up there and basically steal this car.
She (owner) probably just wants it gone, it may end up in the hands of some young kid and then the junk yard..
Most people aren't going to get more money into any car than it is worth. This is the position the 928 is in at this time in history.
Ferrari 308 is worth a little bit more and is far less of a car imo.
But it's got the prancing horse badge
Any pics of the rear quarter damage? (common damage area it seems and an easy area to blend due to the shape)
If it was closer, I would. 4+ hour drive, unfortunately.
You up for a road trip, Matt? We can take my 951. I'll even buy the snacks!
We probably spend $1200-$1500 a year getting our cars detail professionally. It's like getting a brand new car for a few hundred dollars.
You up for a road trip, Matt? We can take my 951. I'll even buy the snacks!
We probably spend $1200-$1500 a year getting our cars detail professionally. It's like getting a brand new car for a few hundred dollars.
I'm really pressed for time right now Shawn, but i think you should Cowboy up and go test drive this car. Enjoy the Fall leaves with the Wife..
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Buy it, pay someone good money to do a real detail job (going to be $500+ unless you love doing that kind of work). Update the mechanicals and fix things as needed while enjoying the hell out of a 86.5 32V 928.
$4,000?? Adding a leather package to a new 911 costs more....... All things are relative I guess.
Buy it, pay someone good money to do a real detail job (going to be $500+ unless you love doing that kind of work). Update the mechanicals and fix things as needed while enjoying the hell out of a 86.5 32V 928.
$4,000?? Adding a leather package to a new 911 costs more....... All things are relative I guess.
It's pretty sad that a car like this is not worth $4,000??? What supercar that starts and drives can you buy for $4,000?.... not even the 928.... because it's worth less than that.
I guess the 928 is so unloved it ranks right up there with Aztec. If this was an early Ferrari 308 it would have to be complete write off to get it for this price...although I've never seen them priced under $10,000 regardless of the condition. I hear Ferrari part / restoration prices are worse then the 928. I own an early Lotus Turbo Esprit which are also unloved but I've never seen one for sale under $8,000 in any condition and quite frankly the 928 is better built, more reliable etc.
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I do believe the 928 values are turning a corner but sadly the last to catch on will be us existing owners.... we will fight it to the bitter end
I guess the 928 is so unloved it ranks right up there with Aztec. If this was an early Ferrari 308 it would have to be complete write off to get it for this price...although I've never seen them priced under $10,000 regardless of the condition. I hear Ferrari part / restoration prices are worse then the 928. I own an early Lotus Turbo Esprit which are also unloved but I've never seen one for sale under $8,000 in any condition and quite frankly the 928 is better built, more reliable etc.
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I do believe the 928 values are turning a corner but sadly the last to catch on will be us existing owners.... we will fight it to the bitter end
Unloved as much as the Aztec! That one really got me...