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Old 08-25-2013, 02:57 PM
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Hello All,

For those that didn't see my other post, I added a 1979 (for a whopping $650.00) to join my 1981 last week. Car has been off the road since 2002 due to a "bad clutch" as it was sold. I purchased it not running. It's a no option car with no sunroof and 5 speed. Black on Black. Extremely original except period cassette player and radar detector. I bought it as a parts car but decided to save it.



After draining the fuel and changing the fuel pump, I easy it got running last week. Clutch pedal was stuck to floor. After examining the system, I decided to tackle the dreaded clutch master cylinder which is the heart of the "bad clutch" problem.

While this job wasn't easy, I didn't find it nearly as bad as I expected. I broke the hydraulic line free and removed the bolts. I then fully removed the hydraulic line and pulled the master out.
After removing the master, I saw this.




Spring broke and bore was badly rusted. I replaced it with a new unit and bled thru the bleeder screw. Final bleed took place by removing the C-Clip and burping the master. Pedal was then rock hard but after applying a little pressure, the clutch broke free. I am assuming the disc was corroded from sitting.

3 hours total work time.

I now have a working clutch pedal!

I am waiting on some parts for the fuel system which is partially disassembled at the time. When those items come in, I am going to see if it will engage a gear.

BTW: with the exception of the power door locks, all electrical items work!

This is FUN, these cars are are a trip to work on!!
Old 08-25-2013, 03:58 PM
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Excellent story... and good save!

They ARE fun to work on.

Good news is the central locks are vacuum, not electrical. So you have that to figure out.

Keep us posted!
Old 08-25-2013, 04:07 PM
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Looks good! Glad you are not parting it out! What method did you use to access and remove and replace the clutch line and the blue hose?
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Originally Posted by AirtekHVAC
Looks good! Glad you are not parting it out! What method did you use to access and remove and replace the clutch line and the blue hose?
That's the funny part. After doing tons of reading here on the forum and elsewhere I just decided to go the "basic" route. I simply reached underneath the booster and used sense of touch On re-install, I attached the blue hose prior to install and started the hydraulic hose just prior to starting the mounting bolts.

My hydraulic clutch hose looks excellent so no need to replace that. I did replace the blue hose of course

Starting those mounting bolts was entertaining but not too bad. I used a screwdriver to line up the one hole while I started the other bolt.

I am here to say.......I was scared of this job going in and pleasantly surprised at the result. I would rate it a 4 of 10.
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PS. Don't pitch the period aftermarket radio. Even those are worth some coin.

... more pics too!
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Here are a few more pics. 72k on the odo and it seems correct. Has a full tool kit and spare bulb kit. The water shields are still on the doors under the panels. Mostly original paint. Its not pretty, but I think this is the right car to build.




This pic makes them both look much better than they are in person


Need to get some interior shots added soon.
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Did you do the pinstriping on the hood? Bitchen!

That's alot of car for $650! You took the risk, it's your reward.
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great save! Another OB revived from the near dead. I like the hood artwork too.
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Nice save guy!
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My first 928 was a 79. Cost more than 650 but I was more than happy to pay the price and finally own a 928. It was a none runner and had it towed to my house. Cleaned all the grounds and put a new battery in it. It started drove a couple hundred yards and died. I pushed it home, wife was pissed, had two babies and basically broke paying all the bills. I was sitting on the sofa thinking this is going to cost more money. I didn't care, I knew I would put money into it but I would have to wait a week or two.

My 6yr old came in and said what is this daddy, she was holding a ripped belt. I said thats a belt. I popped the hood and there was no ALT belt on it. Went to the auto parts store, got a belt, put it on and vrooommmm! She roared to life like a happy beast. Sounded loud and closer inspection revealed headers and custom duel exhaust. Got on the highway and she just wanted to go. Drove the car for three yrs or so and she never missed a beat. The harder I drove her the better! She loved it.

Sold it to buy another and that didn't work out so good so I am batting one for one and getting ready to buy my next 928 soon. Looking at certain MY and trying to figure which on, how much to start with puchase price and looking at what the final car will be like.

In hind sight I should have kept my 79 and dumped the 15k I had into her but no big deal, live and learn. They are awesome cars and will reward you with many smiles!

Good luck!

Stephen
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The pinstriping is everywhere. Quite the rage in 1988!!

I like my cars fairly sweaty to start. Paint and interior is a fact of life on any car I do so I have no problem starting off rough as long as the foundation is good.

I am keeping my fingers crossed and hope to drive this weekend around the block. I checked over a few things and it is apparent that this was well serviced at one point in its life. If the car survives the brief test drive well, I will do a hard cleaning and build a parts list hitting all the service items first, of course.

Like most of us, I have a HUGE spares collection in the basement. This has the potential to be real nice!

Thanks for all the encouragement!!
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Ran the car today for a short while. While my clutch pedal feels good, I have no clutch engagement. Will have to get under there to see whats going on this weekend.

Car ran great when cold, idled nicely for about 5 to 10 minutes. Then stumbled and stalled. Hard to restart and couldn't keep it running. Let is sit a few minutes and restarted it, again it idles nicely for short while and then stalls.

Keep in mind, that the only things done so far are fuel tank flush and fuel pump replacement.

I am a K-Jet newbie so I guess I have a lot to learn.
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When you say no clutch engagement you mean depressing the pedal does not release clutch?

I got my 79 as a none runner and had to un-stick the clutch plates from the flywheel as they were adhered to it due to the length of time since they had last been released by a functioning clutch pedal hydraulic system.
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Actually quite the opposite. While clutch pressure and feel at the pedal is normal, the car will start in gear and you are able to select gears without depressing the clutch. It's not actually engaging. I can push the car in gear easily in any direction. I figure I either have a linkage problem with the gear selector or the clutch is stuck in the released position (a bit odd)

Thanks!
Old 08-30-2013, 07:42 AM
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Sounds like you have no clutch disc left.


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