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Old 08-23-2014 | 12:26 AM
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That sux Matt.
BTW did you see the TSB, that leaving the safety latch on the hood is good for an extra 125 HP,
its on page 476 of section 14 in the WSM.
Old 08-23-2014 | 02:00 AM
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Maybe reverse the technology, so that the pin goes through the hood and locks into the crossmember, attached with a wire.

Like these:

Old 08-23-2014 | 09:34 AM
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Ouch Matt.., that would seriously hack me off ! Guess its ok getting a replacement hood (bonnet over here), its fitting the louvres again and a repaint, but I,m sure you will cope. Good luck and look forward to seeing it done.

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Old 08-23-2014 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
That sux Matt.
BTW did you see the TSB, that leaving the safety latch on the hood is good for an extra 125 HP,
its on page 476 of section 14 in the WSM.
That's weird Stan the hood flew open on Route 476 at mile 14.

Originally Posted by Shawn Stanford
Maybe reverse the technology, so that the pin goes through the hood and locks into the crossmember, attached with a wire.

Like these:

Those are nice, but there is no way i'll forget this again.

a simple vinyl sticker reading HOOD PINS DUMMY? will be an added safety feature inside the car.

Originally Posted by 9two8
Ouch Matt.., that would seriously hack me off ! Guess its ok getting a replacement hood (bonnet over here), its fitting the louvres again and a repaint, but I,m sure you will cope. Good luck and look forward to seeing it done.

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Yes Thanks Ken, and i'll make venting improvements,
the old hood (sorry bonnet) will now be garage wall art.

Best to you,

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Old 08-23-2014 | 01:30 PM
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Sooner or later you'll forget it again, that's just how Murphy's Law works. I would put back just the safety latch parts (not the entire hood latch assembly) and keep the hood pins as a functioning part that actually keep the hood closed. The next time the pins are forgotten, the safety latch will act like it would when you forget to close the hood all the way on a regular car.
Old 08-23-2014 | 06:03 PM
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Ouch, definitely not a fun experience.

One trick that a shop owner I know uses is to put a red aviation streamer on the door handle of any car that has work in progress. After the work is completed the car receives a full walk around and through look-over of any work areas before the flag is allowed to come off.

Hope the damage isn't too bad and that you can get back on the road quickly.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Sooner or later you'll forget it again, that's just how Murphy's Law works. I would put back just the safety latch parts (not the entire hood latch assembly) and keep the hood pins as a functioning part that actually keep the hood closed. The next time the pins are forgotten, the safety latch will act like it would when you forget to close the hood all the way on a regular car.
Yep, you're right. I got too caught up in the '70s RSR thing.

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Ouch, definitely not a fun experience.

One trick that a shop owner I know uses is to put a red aviation streamer on the door handle of any car that has work in progress. After the work is completed the car receives a full walk around and through look-over of any work areas before the flag is allowed to come off.

Hope the damage isn't too bad and that you can get back on the road quickly.
Mike,

The damage was limited only to the hood and hinges. (really don't want to drill those again) Speaking of hinges,
I cannot figure out why they beant and broke the way they did. Once the appraiser comes out i will take the hood off
and try and understand why they both did this.

Anyway for the new hood design I think i want to vent the hot radiator air out just like the 917s
vented their oil cooler/radiator, but i bit more subtle if that's possible.

This would really be effective i think but may not look so elegant.

Found a decent hood in NJ with my Son Matt.


EDIT:

I am leaning toward leaving this hood stock, I kind of miss the clean look.

I think i should look for another hood to modify for the light track use i plan on doing.

The more i think about it, the more i just want my 928 to be more like it came from the factory if a few areas.
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Old 08-25-2014 | 12:47 AM
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I'm sure you all are getting as bored as i am with this but i wanted to run an idea by those that check in.

I kind of don't want hood vents anymore.

Before i added those hood vents to my 928, I had noticed some heat did escape between the fender and hood edge but not enough imo. I wonder if at speed hot air is drawn out at a better rate than i think..

The stamping that reinforces the hood at its perimeter projects down and is very close the the fender flange where your top fender bolts are located.

This area is where and how the hood vents, the rest goes out under the car. I think i have a way to help it vent a little better without seeing much modification to the hood from outside.

Machine out as illustrated or simple drill to connect each side of the reinforcement stamping right after the radiator for the length of the low pressure area (about 16"+).

There is also about a 1/4" that could be trimmed from the fender flange to widen the gap between this hood stamping and fender flange.

You could also trim the hood edge neatly for that 16" to create a
very subtle wider area btwn the hood edge and fender to allow more hot air to be drawn out at speed.

The metal on the hood edge is rolled around the edge and in 5/8", so there is plenty of material to carfully weld this open seam after cutting. (see pic with dashes) Then i'd have to file to get it just right.

My hood will look very stock but offer better venting (i think). I also think it's WAY more a Porsche solution than what i've done. Porsche couldn't open this fender to hood edge gap more otherwise it would look bad and there would be debris issues i'd think.

I'm wondering if this would be effective or wasted effort.

Also debating pulling the motor soon for better cams and a top end refreshing.
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Old 08-25-2014 | 01:10 AM
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Man, So sorry to hear this.

Personally, I think it would be wasted effort. But you have a crap hood you can try it on now, but I don't think it will help at all, and may actually be detrimental to the overall look and functionality of the hood. I wasn't much for the louvers either, BTW.

I think that car would look best with stock hood - with some Gulf orange! . Just my $0.02.

Oh... and a splitter.
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Originally Posted by AO
Man, So sorry to hear this.

Personally, I think it would be wasted effort. But you have a crap hood you can try it on now, but I don't think it will help at all, and may actually be detrimental to the overall look and functionality of the hood. I wasn't much for the louvers either, BTW.

I think that car would look best with stock hood - with some Gulf orange! . Just my $0.02.

Oh... and a splitter.
Good to know, I agree that the stock hood is so pretty as is. Thanks.

I am leaning toward going that way.

But elaborate on where you see the splitter being placed.
Old 08-25-2014 | 02:48 AM
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The performance mods you have planned, re: cams, intake refresh, etc under the hood is the way to go. The performance gains will be more noticeable with the weight down to where you have it.02 T
Old 08-25-2014 | 05:01 AM
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I think vents look cool on a modified car and they do help with allowing heat to exit over the hood rather than underneath - very functional. I don't know that the vents down the side edges of the bonnet will really achieve this goal and might also not look aesthetically as pleasing.. I like the venting on the 968 turbo RS.
Old 08-25-2014 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 77tony
The performance mods you have planned, re: cams, intake refresh, etc under the hood is the way to go. The performance gains will be more noticeable with the weight down to where you have it.02 T
Yes i agree Tony, It is already very quick due to being lite but runs out of breath above around 5200 rpms as all US '83 cars do. It has nice cams for good low down torque for street use and if it were an automatic, but a little higher revving/better breathing cams would be nice for my '83 5- speed.

I have a great local machine shop that does a lot of Porsche work and has for
many years now due to independent Porsche-only shops in the area.
They're very reasonable too.

Originally Posted by drnick
I think vents look cool on a modified car and they do help with allowing heat to exit over the hood rather than underneath - very functional. I don't know that the vents down the side edges of the bonnet will really achieve this goal and might also not look aesthetically as pleasing.. I like the venting on the 968 turbo RS.
I think they are cool too but as Tony77 told me years ago,
the 928 hood is beautiful and shouldn't be cut.
I kind of miss the look of a stock hood but the ducktail spoiler
still appeals to me.

We'll see. Maybe i'll make two hoods.

I will look at the 968 turbo RS venting, not familiar with this car but it sounds sweet.

Take care Drnick,

Matt
Old 08-25-2014 | 04:36 PM
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This is what I have. Love it!

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Originally Posted by AO
This is what I have. Love it!

Wow, Nice!

I love it too.

Carl's product?

Appraiser came today. He dug the car and was a very nice guy.

I'll Let you guys know just for data sake what this damage is thought
to be worth. Damage is limited to hood, hood hinges and a slight kink
and tiny chip in cowl panel.
His concern is the paint matching.
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