GregBBRD

Just a comment on low mileage collector cars.

A non-running or super low mileage "hanger queen" is destined to be "collector car" stuff only....because of the lack of maintenance.

I've seen dozens of uber low mileage cars....all with water seeping completely around the perimeter of the heads.

Unless someone wants to buy one to just park away in a garage, I suggest that people that want to drive them, might be better off finding another, more "used" candidate.

eijun

Would it be better for collector cars to have all the oil/gas/water drained & cleaned before they store it?

GregBBRD

Yes. 25 years ago....

pcar928fan

Greg, I think by definition the "collector car" is going to sit in someones garage and not be driven...

Jadz928

Now I'm even more confused.

So, to draw a comparison... are collectors the type that buy a new toy and keep it in the box?
What do they call those who do *ahem* play with it? Are they not just a different type of collector?

Bertrand Daoust

Hi Jim,

I have to agree with James here.
Collectors don't drive there cars.
Those who drive them, like us, are true "connaisseur". I think...

Jadz928

Hi Bertrand,
So what do you call who drives his freshly restored uber rare '73 RS? Even after being driven, the car will continue to increase in value.

rgs944

I guess my 112k car had the right coolant in it and got driven just enough because when I had the head off a few years back everthing looked very good.

The Fixer

Collectors buy to make a profit, generally these days classics cars return more money than could be made investing anywhere else annually.

We are 928 Enthusiasts not just collectors of the car.

I keep saying 928 values are not too far off 911 values of the same year, and a clean GTS is harder to buy than a clean 993 of the same year.


A very nice 1995 993: $35-45K all day. Very nice GTS will bring same.

I can get on craigslist and buy a clean '86 911 for $16k, or $8K for a clean '86 928, not a big difference in value to me.

I do see 928 asking prices at dealers going up significantly where i live.

As far as becoming collected;
People who have never owned a 928 see the affection and following you all have and get interested. I did.

Values/Prices;
Nice cars most likely will get expensive in ten years relative to what we are used to paying today.

Even crap early Beetles are getting expensive.

Bertrand Daoust

You got a point Jim.
But there is not many, I think, who would drive mutch such a car.
Most of the guys who spend thousand of dollars to restore those car, try to keep the mileage as low as possible.
And keep them in there garage.

Jadz928

You may be surprised how many are driven. Case in point, look at the increased popularity of vintage racing. Are they collectors?

polecat702

I would like Greg's opinion on this. Leno is using waterless coolant in one of his Duesenbergs. The topend of a Duesenberg is aluminum. Needless to say, one of those engines is worth more than the best 928 ever built.

If it's good enough for a Duesenberg, is it good enough for my S4?

What say you Doc Brown? Will it turn acidic over time?

Bertrand Daoust

Well that's a good point but I think those guys are true enthusiast more than collectors. At least to my eyes.
But maybe we can call them enthusiast-collectors owners?

Black Sea RD

One point about this enthusiast vs. collector discussion, they both will spend the money to keep their cars up to snuff.

Even the vintage racers keep their cars to a high level of fit and finish.

Jadz928

Good point!

I'd imagine these are the type of "collectors" we'd like to see gravitate toward the 928.