vetter59

I like variety, and like Porsche's that I am able to do most of the work myself on, which I get a lot of satisfaction from ,enjoy time in the garage, and it makes it much more affordable. Been into the Porsche hobby since 1982 and owned 3 914s, 9 911s, and 2 944s [1 turbo] before I bought my first 928 about 6 yrs ago. I had wanted a 928 for a long time, but was waiting for the right car, time and price, and ended buying a friend's '85 5spd car. To me all Porsche models are special and unique, true the 911 and 928 are very different driving experience's, the 911 is alot more twitchy,will bite you if you don't give it all your attention at speed, but is so very rewarding! The 928 is a true GT, covering large expanses in more comfort, with less effort, but equally rewarding. I currently own a '64 356, '87 911 coupe, 2 '85 928 5 spds, and recently bought a '88 944 project car. I am very satisfied and busy with what I current own, and

vetter59

Was saying happy with what I currently own, and busy getting caught up on the current projects I have!

Guy

GeorgeM

Update... added the '84 Turbo April a year ago.

cobalt

Nice looking 964. Best luck with it. I see someone has dibs on it in coming years.

Tony what happened to the anniversary car? I like the GTS but I thought for sure you would keep the other. Your interior looks nearly identical to my BGTS. I have to say I really enjoy these newer cars especially the GTS variants although not liking the 16 MY base turbo's so far. Grabbing the last of the N/A cars and sticking with it?

77tony

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77tony

Hi Anthony, Gentleman made an offer on the 50th last year that I couldn't refuse. Wife really likes the cab and so do I. Handles, runs like a dream and nice to have a modern car in the mix. T

2002M3Drew

I have a couple of air-cooled 911's: a 1983 911SC, which has a slightly upgraded and well set-up suspension and rides at just below Euro ride height, and a 1992 964 Carrera 2, which is a track car with a cage, and a look that is loosely reminiscent of a Euro RS.

I also have a 1986 944 NA. As my mechanic likes to say, I have the 1980's trilogy.

Honestly, each car is like a child with it's own set of virtues. The SC is a pure air-cooled driving experience. It's quick, it handles like you wouldn't believe, and it's raw. The 964 is, for me, the ideal track car, combining a healthy, rebuilt and tuned 3.6 and ABS with coil-overs, but in the air-cooled platform. It sounds and drives great, albeit not as fast as a modern Cayman S. (Actually, below 80 it is an animal, like a Jr. GT3.) As for the 944, it is probably my favorite car to drive overall, combining good looks, practicality and balance in all respects. You can actually attack an on-ramp, wind it out through the gears, and not go directly to jail for doing so. In some ways it reminds me of my old 1986 8V VW GTI.

The 928S is a whole different animal. It's the GT of the bunch, and mine is an automatic. I love driving the car, though, and I an so happy to finally own one of these machines. I've lusted after one since childhood, more so than any other Porsche. Ironically it was the last one I acquired, as I thought most of them were either too beat up or too problematic. This one kind of fell into my lap, though, and it's been great so far. Of the cars, it's the one I like to go into the garage and just look at. It's like my exotic, if that makes sense. Funny thing is that I happen to have another V-8 Porsche - a 2006 Cayenne S. That truck has more HP (340 vs 288), less displacement (4.5L vs. 5.0L), much more weight, and matches 0-60 times. So by all modern standards, the 928S is no longer a supercar, but that matters nothing to me. It's probably my overall favorite car.

cobalt

I was never an open car person. But we decided on a Boxster GTS. I have to say the new cars especially the GTS variants offer so much. Having an open car in the warmer months is a nice change from the coupes. Best luck with it.

Drew when are we taking the 928's out for a drive? BTW you owe a listening session. LOL The weather is not that bad yet although the past few days have felt bitter and the tires don't like it so much. Would be nice to get the OB and GTS in a photo shoot. Do you think we can get Dom to take some pictures of them together? Spring time?

Petza914

I have 2 997s, a 914, 928, and Cayenne Turbo. From an engine standpoint, I have almost everything covered with a boxer 4, a boxer 6, a supercharged boxer 6, a supercharged V8, and a twin turbo V8. What I need is an air-cooled 6 (would love to have a 964 3.6 Turbo or a 993 TT) and one of the v10s (Carrera GT. The car I regret purchasing when I had the chance back in 2012, was a silver over black 964 3.6T for $50k since they're 3x that now.

Everyone of them is a very different experience, the supercharged RUF 997 with Stage 2 RSS Track Suspension, Bilstein Damptronics, and TPC DSC box is just amazing - sorry, but that one is my absolute favorite. It accelerates, corners, and does everything with laser-like precision. It's the only car I've never thought "I'd love another 100 HP".

The 914 is a fun little go-cart, virtually impossible to get into trouble in because of it's balance, light weight, and limited power (even though it's modded up to about 150 HP).

The 928 is my German muscle car - heavier, the controls all take more force, the torque starts much lower, and has a pretty supple ride considering the Sport Springs it has.

The Cayenne just defies physics and can cover ground like nothing else, all while providing room for the family to come along, a smooth ride, and quiet cabin.

I don't understand those who turn their noses up at a specific model of Porsche - all of them contributed to the history of the brand and got us all into the Porsche brotherhood.


Supercharged '05 RUF 997 C2S



Supercharged '79 928 Spyder


928 Thread so it gets 2 pics



957 Widebody conversion currently in-process which will yield a result almost identical to this



Modified & Updated '74 914 Ltd Edition Car

Divotdog

I owned 10 911s before I purchased my 928. I have owned a 75 911S, 83 SC, 79 turbo, 99 Carrera, 04 GT3, 03 GT3 Cup Car, 72 RS tribute , an 83 SC track car and currently own a 73 RSR style race car and a 74 US Carrera. The 89 928 GT is as thrilling as any.

docmirror

more than 12 years ago I lucked into a 90 928GT at a ridiculous price. I wasn't shopping for one, and honestly, my wife found it on CL. The seller didn't know what he had, and I grabbed it instantly. It was kinda rough, so I started to take care of various systems along the way, and once got it running right discovered the potential of the car.

With nothing previous to compare to except a 71 914 about 20 years back, it was a watershed experience. As said previously, once the 928 5 speed gets underway, it seems to shrink down into its roots and becomes a potent platform for high speed motion. When I got the 914 up over 100, I was more than a little nervous. I've had the 928 up well over 130 and felt it could do that all day without working hard. It is clear that the 928 was tested and retested at high speeds and all the little bugs were worked out before it was sent off to the motoring public. The S4 and later 928 is so well balanced and powerful for it's day I'm amazed at the disrespect it was shown back then, and even now. Sadly, it fell victim to one of its many known failings and seized the engine while on the track and has been laid up for over 8 years, because I get frustrated working on it.

In Nov 2015 I again fell into the deal of the century and grabbed up a early build 99 911 aero coupe, or Carrera C2 as Porsche decided to call it(996 variant). Since I hadn't been in a 911 for quite a long time, and hadn't driven one for even longer, it was all new to me. I think my last piloting of any 911 was at least 15 years ago. To put it in words of my buddy from Merry Old - I was gobsmacked.

One of the reasons I bought the 996 was its price. I picked it up for $16k, and was once again amazed at the amount of car for the price. The 996 has suffered price-wise for some idiotic moves by Porsche in the mid-90s and even earlier. The Boxster and new 911(996) was the saving grace for a car company that was on the brink of financial ruin, and the results show it. Yes, the interior is a bit pedestrian, lots of plastic, and bits will fall apart in a few years. However, that is the only downside of the marque that I've been able to find.

Rated at 296HP, that's significantly less than the 326 of the 928GT. But - the 996 sure seems to be plenty potent, maybe it was me being out of the saddle for a while. It has a lightweight feel, although similar in weight. The steering ratio is tighter, the throttle response is faster, and the shifting is on par or better than the 928 as long as the trans is warmed up. One of the reasons I bought the 996 was the guards red color and tan interior which like some others here matches my 928. I was lucky in that it also was fitted with the hollow spoke super light wheels, and the M030 sport package, as well as LSD, and the active traction control, a rarity for the 99 model. The original buyer of the car knew what he was doing when ordered from Porsche.

After some driving, I would say it's difficult to imagine that both cars are from the same mfg company. They share so little in style, driving modes, and response that you might as well put different logo badges on them. The 928GT is a bull with a bad attitude, and the 996 AeroSport(my newly thought up moniker) is like a hungry cheetah. I would say driven in anger the 928 is more forgiving, and when the pedal is mashed, more predictable. The 996 hasn't been tracked, but I have done some sporty driving around central TX. The 996 is a generation change, and it's also what I used to call my old X1/9 Fiat. I can sense that everything will be just fine, no problem, easy-peasy handling -- right up until it isn't anymore.

If one departs from that fine line of accuracy in the 996AeroSport, without PSM(please save me) mode, I can see that the 996 will become a hurtling mass of tin, plastic, and aluminum. It's very aggressive to handle, and will take a lot of speed to depart, but once gone, there's no recovery, and you might as well put both feet in, cross your arms, and depend on the airbags and restraint system engineers knowing their job.

The 928GT isn't much in traffic and around town, as it's rather heavy clutch and moderately jarring ride. The 996AeroSport shares that with the 928. I've driven a non-M030 2004 996 recently and it was much more comfy just tootling around. The difference in wheels, tires, and suspension is very noticeable, and not really much fun if the road isn't in good shape.

The only other failing of the 996 compared to the 928 is the build quality. The 928 has, and will live for a long, long time. They've weathered the years remarkably well even with modest maint. The 996s are already suffering from lack of maint, and the only thing keeping them from being junked in huge numbers is the very low price of entry. Of course, that becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy when the new cheap owner defers yet another fault in the car, and so on and so forth(928s know the drill, but seem to deal with it better).

I have always liked the modern-for-79 look of the 928, it was far advanced in features and design goals from the start. The S4 model is the most aggressive of the family with the wheel skirts, and of course the big beer table on the back end. The early 996AeroSport seems to becoming a kind of stalking horse for its looks. There are multiple threads on which of the 996/997 variant cars look best, and almost always the early C2 with aero package(taco wing) comes out ahead. Many people turn up their nose that the Boxster frog headlamps, and the wing is a real elaborate 'look at me!' bauble, but when you see it in motion - it just works. Having the lowered sport option, and twist wheels helps as well.

I can't close this diatribe without mention of the M96 engine disaster known as the IMS bearing fault. It was the low point for Porsche design works, and even this electrical engineer scratches his head and says 'what the hell were you thinking?' when looking at the design, and build parameters of that mess. It is part and parcel of how I was able to steal a nice new 996 when the mood struck me. That's my story, and now that I've owned it, the niggling scare in the back of my mind each time I run it makes ownership less fun. I'm considering selling it already as I want to either replace the IMS bearing once and for all, or sell the car so it doesn't bug me like a little $10,000 time bomb behind me just waiting, waiting, waiting......BLAM!!

ihoe

86.5 928, 87 911 and 92 968.

2002M3Drew

We definitely have to get the OB and NB cars together for some photos! Should be fun. I'll be interested to see what you think of the car.

Listening session is doable this winter! Once we get through the holidays i'll have you guys over to hear the tubes.

2002M3Drew

Nice trilogy!!