Help. Weird sound with new Porken tensioner
#17
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I have a similar sound except it's most noticable when I'm cruising about 30mph with my foot off the pedal (like when going down a slight grade). I have a new WP, and checked everything I could with the PKT but couldn't find anything unusual. Figured it was normal. I'm also running the Gate racing belt. It may make the sound when I'm accelerating but I don't hear it over the engine and exhaust.
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Now that I think about it, my car has been making a whining sounds after the PuKiT was installed. And here, all along, I thought it was that Rotrex supercharger.
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So I took the font cover off so I could check the tensioner in action. Sure enough, it has the high pitch sound folks are talking about. I faintly hear the other noise I was looking for. I put the car back together and rumbling noise that is coming from the passenger side front cover is back. I give up.....I am going to drive it.
I have a video with sound....cant figure out how to upload.
I have a video with sound....cant figure out how to upload.
Last edited by atari_st; 02-19-2013 at 12:28 AM.
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Note high pitched sound is under acceleration, not when idling.
Odd cam noises could be a broken cam gear spider/hub.
Odd cam noises could be a broken cam gear spider/hub.
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My 89S4 made spectacularly loud metallic crunching noises from the right bank when I started it, and then the engine stopped.
I am suspecting a broken cam timing chain, completely unrelated to the PKT.
Now I am too depressed to open it up to take a look.
Oh well, maybe Colin's Triflow cams aren't all that far in my future after all.
I am suspecting a broken cam timing chain, completely unrelated to the PKT.
Now I am too depressed to open it up to take a look.
Oh well, maybe Colin's Triflow cams aren't all that far in my future after all.
#26
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OK.. here is a video. The difference between the two is with everything off the front of the car versus everything back on. Now....the sound is still there even when I take the accessory belts off. I can hear a faint trace of the noise with the center belt cover removed...but really apparent when placed back on the car.
Now.....give me you best guesstimate?
BTW: It should read belt cover off.....not cam cover.
Now.....give me you best guesstimate?
BTW: It should read belt cover off.....not cam cover.
Last edited by atari_st; 02-22-2013 at 07:47 PM.
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Uncanny resemblance to WWII V-1 buzz bomb (which had a resonant frequency of approximately 45 Hz); listen to this about 30 s in:
I was wondering what the sound of the belt might be: 24 crank teeth per revolution, right? So I think impacts of belt teeth on something would yield a sound at about 270 Hz, wouldn't it? (I.e., I can't explain what we're hearing. )
I assume when you had the covers off, you inspected them carefully for any signs of contact, right? I couldn't really hear the sound with the covers off.
I was wondering what the sound of the belt might be: 24 crank teeth per revolution, right? So I think impacts of belt teeth on something would yield a sound at about 270 Hz, wouldn't it? (I.e., I can't explain what we're hearing. )
I assume when you had the covers off, you inspected them carefully for any signs of contact, right? I couldn't really hear the sound with the covers off.
Last edited by Ed Scherer; 02-22-2013 at 09:18 PM.
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One other thing (long shot); as I see you don't have the tensioner pivot arm bolt and related bracket, see a post on an issue related to a cover installation issue (and the post that it refers to). Perhaps the issue covered in those posts could actually lead to a deformed (until corrected) enough cover that contact with moving parts could result. Seems unlikely to me, but still worth consideration.
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I think its solved and I feel stupid. Stupid is as stupid does! So I decide to tear it back down to check under the cover. I thought what the heck....let me take one part off at a time just to see if I can catch it. Well....I think its the Air Pump after all. Shot a video with air pump belt off than put it back on. I am freaking sure I have done it before and swore it was not the air pump. I am feeling pretty sure thats it.
Thanks for all of those who provide advice, opinions, and crazy stuff that do not make any sense but is fun to read anyway!!!
I am about to start on the drivetrain. This is a complete restore which will include Paint and Interior.
Thanks for all of those who provide advice, opinions, and crazy stuff that do not make any sense but is fun to read anyway!!!
I am about to start on the drivetrain. This is a complete restore which will include Paint and Interior.