mark kibort

Here is the schedule for the AV8SS season. if you notice, we even get down to Willow springs too! some of the weekends are with NASA, and we would run under their flag for the weekend. all you need is an additional membership with NASA.

2013 AV8SS Racing Schedule

March 16/17 Sonoma
March 22-24 T-Hill
April 12-14 Laguna
May 4/5 Willow Springs
May 25-26 T-Hill
June 6-9 Laguna Seca
July 5-7 Sonoma
Sept 21/22 T Hill
Oct. 12/13 Buttonwillow
Oct. 19/20 TBD
Nov. 9/10 Sonoma

Speedtoys

Mark:

An SCCA class running in a NASA event?


You sure?

mark kibort

absolutely! we are running under the nasa banner, but our own class within the high performance race group. (same group as the american Iron, an i think the GTS, ST-1-2 etc)

IcemanG17

interesting....bummer my car is so underpowered vs the field

Speedtoys

Hmm..ok, checkin.

mark kibort

whats confusing? AV8SS is running with NASA. Its not reallly a SCCA class, but they are letting the AV8SS guys with SCCA licenses, run with nasa as part of the one popular run group.. All we need to do is pay the nasa membership as i understand it.

no, you would fit right in and have quite a bit of good racing. much more than you have ever seen in your experience so far!

Speedtoys

Anyone can run in NASA, just find a class to run in. A Kia Rio can run Super Unlimited if it wants to.

But lets be clear, AV8SS isnt a NASA series/class/anything.

But come on over, you'll love running AI with us, the rules actually make sense in AI.

mark kibort

what are you talking about???? I know all about running NASA. ran with them for many years. You mean, anyone can get a NASA racing license. all you have to do is run group 4 for a while!

Anyway, you are being clear about something you might not be clear about. AV8SS is a class in the NASA run group. they are running in NASA and are a class and that class will be callled AV8SS, just as AI is a class.. I dont know how much more clear I can be.

Speedtoys

Im sorry, AV8SS is not a NASA class, however it may be a group invited to participate, but it's not a defined national class.

I hear Brian read the NASA CCR, you should ask him to help you out on license requirements.

mark kibort

again, they are inviting us to run as a Class in the nasa run group. It will be the AV8SS class. just like AI, ST2, GTS-3, etc. we have to join nasa, and they might just be giving us licenses too.
so, i guess AV8SS would be considered a Guest class.

Mk

Hilton

justaguy

Sounds like fun!
I'll run a few of those if nasa will accept my scca log book.

Speedtoys

If it is current, yessir.

I would go over the same items on your car, that Brian discovered on his. Institutional oversights tend to be common from one group to another.

We're all always learning on this issue from each other.


Did you get an answer on your FIA license?

mark kibort

what oversights do you usually see?

Speedtoys

Lack of inspection of cage welds, especially halo.

Seems to be a universal human error condition there.

Easy to miss unless you have a good mirror, light, and set of picks to find em. But if you find bad halo welds, youll then find bad B pillar welds to door bars and harness bars, etc...and pad attachment welds..

This is the top of the welds in a -brand- new (or was) build for a brand new spec series car from last year.

Its easy to see, once the jaws cut the car apart to assist the driver getting out (he was fine, but..this should scare you a lot Mark..this is whats out there)