claudiu

I checked under wing by removing the wheel ! is not there

in no numbers or letters, is blank!

Vilhuer

If its '80 model year should it have 17 digit VIN at later location? I think it should. If that location is not visible that is one place to check.

Rob Edwards

17 digit VINs started in '81 in the US market. There should be a VIN on that pad in the wheelwell, though it's stamped from the engine compartment so it'll be 'backwards' in the wheelwell, and it may not have transferred through well. SHould be able to see at least some of it in the engine compartment, just to the rear of the 14 pin connector and TSZ ignition box.

Vilhuer

OK, I wasn't sure when long VIN stamping started, '80 or '81.

If all else fails there is one possibility of getting original VIN. Bodies I have seen there is separate serial number stamped at firewall well hidden in engine bay at center of car. There is small hope that factory has info on this number and what VIN was used in that body.

But it is likely more easy to get bad condition body with papers and move number from it. Though in any case it makes no financial sense at all at current 928 prices.

linderpat

If I were a betting man, I'd think that car was hot based upon what you said and what it shows. Somebody purposefully removed those vin tags and ground this one down from the looks of it.

claudiu

You have right ....for sure by intention removed VIN, looks so clean and polished the area !
I will try interior if remained something! Also trying to contact Porsche Stuttgart Oldtimer, but unsuccessfully they are very busy and English is not very likely for them !

thank you all for all help until now, is great to have such a support!
thank youuu very much!

claudiu

starting from next week i will dismantle interior and then exterior. In the same time, try to speak again with Porsche Oldtimer headquarters, because they promise to call and never do that, yes ....because Romania!
I really hope to find a way to find VIN, form Porsche or .... from car ....

claudiu

Can you please direct me to service manual, to have some details about removing any part from car ?
what I know until now is engine code M28/11 82D0668

Rob Edwards

An M28/11 82D0XXX serial number means the engine (block) is originally from a 1983 European market 5-speed car, so if the car is in fact a 1980, it's not the original engine. Can you get the serial number from the transmission? (bottom of the 3rd to rearmost 'rib' on the transmission case). It'll look something like this:

claudiu

1980...is the year told by let's say owner!
Now i am trying to discover the car! Be sure i will search where you told me! I saw inside the gearbox head is 5 manual . I will reply ! Thanks

claudiu

Hello,
tried as you say ! nothing there ! area perfectly clean! other option ?

928cs

Remove the dashboard, and on the passenger's side (for a LHD car), near the windshield you should find a number stamped starting with 12.
Please let us know if you find this number.

claudiu

Yess.... After one hard day found something!
Number is 1232849

claudiu

Not exactly in passenger side, is very close to middle of car! 10cm from center to passenger side.

928cs

Great!
Now, we know that this 928 was the 2849th ordered of the 1983 model-year.
Your next step will be to contact Porsche AG or your local importer, with a proof that you are the owner of this particular car, and Porsche AG can certainly find the VIN of the car.
From this number and the engine number, M28/11 82D 0668, I think that your car was one of the 824 RoW manual 928 S of the 1983 model-year. 721 were LHD cars, like yours.
The gearbox number would also help. I suppose that it will start with G28/07. It is stamped just under the gearbox.

If you provide these three numbers (production number, engine and gearbox), Porsche must be capable to find the VIN and confirm if the engine and the engine's numbers match their records.

The original VIN must be something like WP0ZZZ92ZDS84???? .