944J

hardly any of the stuff he listed is considered minor mechanical, like he said, he's totally full of it saying that $10k is normal maintenance for a 928, just being hard to get a long with and the upkeep price of a 928 is not the topic of the convo, so he's off topic too...

anyone gets this kind of beatdown on rennlish anytime they suggest anything that doesnt involve taking your car to a high priced porsche mechanic and watching in your golf shorts while over charges you, you'll get the same flames if you say i want to turbo my 944 or this or that unless you spend a lot of money you get little respect from many in the porsche community because for so many people, they buy porsches for the status which represents money, not anything else. this is why many other boards have sprung up because of the bickering about topics like v8 swaps, custom projects, and how to get things done cheaply. there are a lot of people who say stuff like you have to upgrade your transmission when you do a ls1 swap in a 944 but i talk to one of the first guys to do it and he runs a regular old 944 transmission, its just a lot of myths that get perpetuated by people who dont know while the people who really know either dont come on the board or they just do it and post pictures, its bascially a mistake to ask advice for custom projects on this board. people are starting to pre-fix their posts with "i dont want to get flamed, but I want to know..."

944J

this is a backhanded way of calling someone stupid, love it

bronto

He's got a 16v so if his cheap water pump fails at least it won't brick the engine.

I have no problem with you doing whatever you want with your own $500 928. At $500, it's probably beyond a real restoration anyway. I do have a problem with it if you are trying to flip it, because the sucker will probably end up here asking questions.

bronto

You aren't listening at all. Most of the owners here do their own work.

Rob Edwards

Huh. I think 928's are about the un-coolest Porsche on the planet. No other Porsche owner ever gives me the time of day. Which is part of the appeal, to me.

And I wear gym shorts, not golf shorts. So there.

jeff spahn

You are reading into things.

It isn't snobbery, it's simple numbers.

In total 163,192 cars in the 944 family were produced between 1982 and 1991. This high number made it the most successful car line in Porsche's history until the respective introductions of the Boxster and 997 Carrera.

As for the 928, total worldwide production for all years was a little over 61,000 cars made from 1978 to 1995. This means less cars to spread the cost of parts over, thus parts are more expensive. Less cars, smaller market, less people making aftermarket parts because their is less money in it. Less money in it means higher parts costs to recoup tooling costs for aftermarket.

Look, I like 944's. Fun car. Nowhere near the same mission. 944, sports car. 928 Luxury GT car. You do different things with them. Fact is 928 costs more to maintain plain and simple. They are all old, rubber parts wear out. Mechanical parts wear out. As less and less of them get on the road, less and less used parts to get so the price goes up for the remaining parts. Pretty simple economics.

Can a 944 beat up a 928? Sure in the right setting with different missions it sure can. Are they the same car? Not by a long shot. You seem to be taking this personally. No one here has anything out against you. You asked for help and people are trying to help you.

You can't generalize a 928 as 1/2 of a 944. It doesn't work that way. There are more 944's out there to start with so they will naturally be cheaper to do anything with.

You don't want to believe people here who have done the work, fine. Don't ask for advice then nor be surprised when people don't agree with you.

Put it this way. You get the car done and it passes a proper PPI by Greg Brown in Anaheim, I'll give you $3000 on the spot and pay for the PPI which will cost $450. That's your $500 purchase, your $2000 in it, you make $500 easy money.

jeff spahn

I am the first one who will jump on the LS1 bandwagon with my 928 when the time comes to change the engine. No snobbery here. I bought the car because I like it. I could give a rats *** what other people think. When they says "How can I afford a car like this, I must be rich" or ask how much I paid for the car I tell them "25% of what you did for your pickup"

danglerb

My experience does not match your expectations. Your expectations are common with many new owners buying their first 928. We hear the same story about once a month or so, or some variation on how they are going to make a nice car out of a cheap 928. Nobody I know of has found a cheap way to make a nice 928 yet.

Take a look at these two cars and tell me how your $500 928 is going to come out ahead of them. They are genuine examples of buying smart.

Long threads, lots of picts, many toward the end.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l-3-600-a.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...t-leo928s.html

Landseer

What Jason said, trolled.
From one of dozens of threads on the 4 cylinder Rennlist forums ----



Quote:
Originally Posted by 944J
let me guess you are mad because you could have bought two houses in nevada for the cost of your 951?



Quote --- CPR,
That's rich...putting down the 951 on a 951 Forum....

Considering this is your third thread in as many weeks on how to make 700HP, then how to build a 600HP race car clone for the street and now this one about making 400hp via the 2.5 OR 500hp + use an LS1....it all makes little sense to me(?).

You have asked for the boards advice, then upon receipt, you lay claim to being able to build one with "used" or "free" parts for next to nothing...pretty much exclaiming along the way that those who have proferred their advice on you behalf are "full of ****", because you ca do it this way or that.....strange.

Why don't you just build it, docmument it, the post it....since you already seem to be in the know.

FYI...it helps to own one first.

Imo000

What is a TJ?

jeff spahn

I really believe we are wasting our time with this guy if he won't listen to constructive advice. He has made his mind up that we are all wrong and he is right with the "inside track" and we are all snobs and in the country club set. I don't drive my 928 to the Country Club, I drive my Honda 150 scooter if you really want to know.

We don't know how to buy "right or smart" and are just wasting money to show off. Reminds me of my brother who is the only right one in his mind and everyone else can go to hell 'cause they are wrong. Then again I could be wrong and I'll get a perfectly sorted 928 for $3000.

bronto

TJ = Tijuana, where high quality craftsmanship can be had for cheap. True for some things, not for others. Possible for automotive work but I wouldn't chance it without a very strong recommendation.

jeff spahn

Good advice. Same thing with pharmaceuticals in TJ. If you don't have a strong connection, the Dianabol you get could just be saline and you'll end up with a lump in your *** for nothing. Then again, that was 20 years ago when I played with that crap.

Mrmerlin

for more reading enjoyment, type less.... read more..........its like a tail wagging the dog thread....

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-about-it.html



https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...rbo-my-na.html

DC 89GT

lol, danggit Stan!! I thought I was done readin' for the night!!!