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Old 10-07-2012 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
Lol i don't understand why this kid starts threads when he'll just do what he wants to anyways. Even if it is blatantly the wrong thing to do.
No not really, I like to think what all the clowns think, but I end up listing to Kibort just because he's so successful
Old 10-07-2012 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RPetty2
No not really, I like to think what all the clowns think, but I end up listing to Kibort just because he's so successful
Listing?!?!?!

Kibort is so successful that he got others to pay and built his engine.
Old 10-07-2012 | 04:07 AM
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Anti-sway bars need to be balanced front to rear based on driving style and the part of the corner you are tuning for. Tires themselves can also make a huge difference in suspension settings.

It is entirely possible for the the stock setup to need more front bar stiffness to handle better.

This is a good picture of a pushing car that needs more front bar...



The outside front tire is being overloaded to the point of less traction than the inside rear tire that is being lifted off the ground.
Old 10-07-2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RPetty2
No not really, I like to think what all the clowns think, but I end up listing to Kibort just because he's so successful

He is his own driver, be your own...how he sets up his car, complements how he drives it.


Nothing successful comes from just following.


Your limits, your type of driving (once established) will require a different setup than anyone else's.


All things being equal, in a spec class of 50 cars with all of the same parts, no two will be the same for this reason.


"The Internet Told Me To" is half the reason cars end up in walls at race tracks. The other half, is believing it.

Dont listen to me tho..I was never a championship racer, never ever on safety for 7yrs, and absolutely not a Race Director absorbing even more experience on why people do bad things at racetracks.

I look forward to your American Gladiators debut Mr Petty. Now..ask me why I think you would do that...
Old 10-07-2012 | 03:16 PM
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I'm surprised that, if the discussion of handling and the additive effects of decisions is going to carry forward, no one is relating potenital sway bar choices back to the tire/wheel choices.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...etty2%2C+tires
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Originally Posted by RPetty2
No not really, I like to think what all the clowns think, but I end up listing to Kibort just because he's so successful
Listing?!?!?!

Kibort is so successful that he got others to pay and built his engine.
I guarantee Kibort would make u look like nothing in any way dealing with 928.
Old 10-07-2012 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RPetty2
I guarantee Kibort would make u look like nothing in any way dealing with 928.

Ohhh, I highly doubt that.
Old 10-07-2012 | 11:56 PM
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The ONLY time adding a stiffer front bar reduces understeer is IF the suspension geometery is such that the camber change under compression does not provide adequate negative camber to compensate for body roll. Many Mc Pherson strut cars have some weird camber changes especially if lowered !
The rule still is if the front is screwing up fix the rear !! There is much on line about understeer and oversteer and I have found with students that quite often it is driver induced by a too quick too abrupt turn in before the tires have a chance to take a set.
Track time and good instruction will "fix" many handling problems
Old 10-08-2012 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
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I guarantee Kibort would make u look like nothing in any way dealing with 928.

Ohhh, I highly doubt that.
I dont, there's nobody smarter and better driver of a 928 then mark Kibort.
Put micheal shumaker in a 928 and I'll even beat him. It's ok that marks the best, just live with the facts
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Originally Posted by RPetty2
I dont, there's nobody smarter and better driver of a 928 then mark Kibort.
Put micheal shumaker in a 928 and I'll even beat him. It's ok that marks the best, just live with the facts
Is Kibort your boyfriend?
Old 10-08-2012 | 09:38 PM
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Childhood crush? :-)
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Getting in arguments with a spoiled teenager again are we...?



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