View Poll Results: What should Chuck do with the 928 Registry?
928 Registry - I've read post #1 and I thoughtfully say sell it!
66
73.33%
928 Registry - I've read post #1 and I thoughtfully say donate it to the OC!
19
21.11%
928 Registry - I haven't read the post and I do not have an opinion.
5
5.56%
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#61
Burning Brakes
Hi All
I think Chuck's comments about what "the basic function of a registry is" are very important. It is a resource for sure, but a resource for what exactly?
1.) For buyers to better asses the history of a car they might purchase?
2.) A platform to better market your car when you want to sell it?
3.) An additional social media tool to market yourself, i.e. show off your toys?
4.) For marketing of parts or services, which could, by the way, benefit both merchants and owners?
5.) To generally increase the value of "our" cars?
6.) To aid in repairing or restoring older cars?
7.) Etc. ? (i.e. please add additional ideas...)
Since some of these purposes could be opposed to one another, it's really necessary to have a clear idea of what the purpose of this site is. I have enjoyed reading Chuck's posts and also admire his diligence and enthusiasm in making this site.
On the other hand, as a personal anecdote, I am quite sure the information about my car is incorrect. This very fact has led me to spend a good deal of time thinking about this site and kept me from updating my car. Although I am sure that much information on the site is correct, my personal position has led me to question the role fo the site and what the incorrect information would lead others to think.
I actually like the neutral attitude of the 928Registry. But that might not best fit to several of the possible purposes such a site might have.
Cheers all, John
ps - I haven't voted yet. When I decide what the best answer is, I will vote. :-)
I think Chuck's comments about what "the basic function of a registry is" are very important. It is a resource for sure, but a resource for what exactly?
1.) For buyers to better asses the history of a car they might purchase?
2.) A platform to better market your car when you want to sell it?
3.) An additional social media tool to market yourself, i.e. show off your toys?
4.) For marketing of parts or services, which could, by the way, benefit both merchants and owners?
5.) To generally increase the value of "our" cars?
6.) To aid in repairing or restoring older cars?
7.) Etc. ? (i.e. please add additional ideas...)
Since some of these purposes could be opposed to one another, it's really necessary to have a clear idea of what the purpose of this site is. I have enjoyed reading Chuck's posts and also admire his diligence and enthusiasm in making this site.
On the other hand, as a personal anecdote, I am quite sure the information about my car is incorrect. This very fact has led me to spend a good deal of time thinking about this site and kept me from updating my car. Although I am sure that much information on the site is correct, my personal position has led me to question the role fo the site and what the incorrect information would lead others to think.
I actually like the neutral attitude of the 928Registry. But that might not best fit to several of the possible purposes such a site might have.
Cheers all, John
ps - I haven't voted yet. When I decide what the best answer is, I will vote. :-)
Last edited by Red Flash; 09-18-2012 at 06:06 PM.
#62
Rennlist Member
My business side thinks the PCA would be the best way to go. Fortunately I didn't get a 928 for business cause I won't make any money on mine.
By the same logic, why doesn't the OC get folded into the PCA. They own the 928 branding so do we have any license with PCNA?
If we can keep it out of PCA it should go to Roger, he has "drunk the kool-aid" of our cars and has stepped up to take it. However i would like it to remain an open source for information and not a pay to play site.
Just my thoughts.
Tim
By the same logic, why doesn't the OC get folded into the PCA. They own the 928 branding so do we have any license with PCNA?
If we can keep it out of PCA it should go to Roger, he has "drunk the kool-aid" of our cars and has stepped up to take it. However i would like it to remain an open source for information and not a pay to play site.
Just my thoughts.
Tim
#65
Drifting
I am acquainted with the system so I knew where to look but come on guys it's the Intranet,
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...08:d6qa38.2.10
EDIT: one link removed
Now a lawyer will tell you it means nothing until it is tested, but of course that's how they make dough. But from the little I know, the same mark can be used by different entities as long as the products can not be confused with one another, a car vs. a website ? It appears as though Porsche never bothered in this country, That does not mean they didn't register it in Deutschland and even if they did does that hold here ? Treaties, german lawsuits ...................................
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...08:d6qa38.2.10
EDIT: one link removed
Now a lawyer will tell you it means nothing until it is tested, but of course that's how they make dough. But from the little I know, the same mark can be used by different entities as long as the products can not be confused with one another, a car vs. a website ? It appears as though Porsche never bothered in this country, That does not mean they didn't register it in Deutschland and even if they did does that hold here ? Treaties, german lawsuits ...................................
#66
Not sure if that's directed at me but I just called it up from memory. This if from Wikipedia (yeah yeah)
History
The original Pentium branded CPUs were expected to be named 586 or i586, to follow the naming convention of previous generations (286, i386, i486). However, as the company wanted to prevent their competitors from branding their processors with similar names, as AMD had done with their Am486, Intel attempted to file a trademark on the name in the United States, only to be denied because a series of numbers was not considered distinct.[3]
Following Intel's previous series of 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, and 80486 microprocessors, the company's first P5-based microprocessor was released as the original Intel Pentium on March 22, 1993. Marketing firm Lexicon Branding was hired to coin a name for the new processor. The suffix -ium was chosen as it could connote a fundamental ingredient of a computer, like a chemical element[4], while the prefix pent- could refer to the fifth generation of x86.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_%28brand%29
History
The original Pentium branded CPUs were expected to be named 586 or i586, to follow the naming convention of previous generations (286, i386, i486). However, as the company wanted to prevent their competitors from branding their processors with similar names, as AMD had done with their Am486, Intel attempted to file a trademark on the name in the United States, only to be denied because a series of numbers was not considered distinct.[3]
Following Intel's previous series of 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, and 80486 microprocessors, the company's first P5-based microprocessor was released as the original Intel Pentium on March 22, 1993. Marketing firm Lexicon Branding was hired to coin a name for the new processor. The suffix -ium was chosen as it could connote a fundamental ingredient of a computer, like a chemical element[4], while the prefix pent- could refer to the fifth generation of x86.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_%28brand%29
#67
Drifting
Not directed at anyone, just had seen it mentioned a few times. I like to learn stuff so thanks for the above. The link I deleted was a little salty btw.
Your post might relate to why Porsche is naming most of their products these days.
Your post might relate to why Porsche is naming most of their products these days.
#68
Rennlist Member
I am acquainted with the system so I knew where to look but come on guys it's the Intranet,
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...08:d6qa38.2.10
EDIT: one link removed
Now a lawyer will tell you it means nothing until it is tested, but of course that's how they make dough. But from the little I know, the same mark can be used by different entities as long as the products can not be confused with one another, a car vs. a website ? It appears as though Porsche never bothered in this country, That does not mean they didn't register it in Deutschland and even if they did does that hold here ? Treaties, german lawsuits ...................................
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...08:d6qa38.2.10
EDIT: one link removed
Now a lawyer will tell you it means nothing until it is tested, but of course that's how they make dough. But from the little I know, the same mark can be used by different entities as long as the products can not be confused with one another, a car vs. a website ? It appears as though Porsche never bothered in this country, That does not mean they didn't register it in Deutschland and even if they did does that hold here ? Treaties, german lawsuits ...................................
Porsche does enthusiastically enforce its trademarks - just ask the women of rennlist (WOR - do a search) about their first attempt at a cool fundraising calendar a few years back - they were stopped from showing the porsche crest in any picture in the calendar, because it was something that was being sold.
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Rennlist Member
#71
Rennlist Member
#72
Drifting
I've reached agreements (on behalf of my clients) to permit or be permitted to share marks - cheaper than fighting about it. Again, without knowing what went on behind the scenes, it is impossible to say how or whether that Atlanta company was involved with Porsche in any way on the number. The number itself probably isn't sufficiently distinctive by itself to merit protection, but used in combination with an image, and with the name "Porsche" itself, it certainly is. Also, this isn't about "a website" as you say, but instead, about the content on that website. Go ahead and start promoting something called "apple" or "disney" on a website you create and see what happens, especially if it is computers or entertainment. No doubt the "928 Registry" is about Porsche cars called the 928. If you sell it they will come
Porsche does enthusiastically enforce its trademarks - just ask the women of rennlist (WOR - do a search) about their first attempt at a cool fundraising calendar a few years back - they were stopped from showing the porsche crest in any picture in the calendar, because it was something that was being sold.
Interesting you mentioned Apple - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...8/applevsapple but back on this we have 3 vendors here in the same situation 1 of whom has a registered mark. ( that I know of)
Not my area of expertise, just find it interesting stuff. What I do know is that jury's decide in this country, usually and if I were on it I know which way I would vote.
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