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Old 09-22-2012, 06:34 PM
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how did you clean the tank?
and this occurred after the tank cleaning.
Could someone have put sugar in your tank?
This isnt normal
Old 09-22-2012, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
how did you clean the tank?
and this occurred after the tank cleaning.
Could someone have put sugar in your tank?
This isnt normal
Cleaned the tank with the cleaner folks here recommended...

... and That was my first thoughts. Car has only been in my garage and at the paint shop. Not that I have some if this stuff dry, it does not look like sugar. I am thinking paint dust.... I know he had one painter leaver that 1st worked on the car... This happened at his shop so he and I are going to have a very candid conversation next week....

good thing is, that super duper filter for the intake pump replacement worked like a champ! The normal filter is pretty clean... I have cleaned the stainless in tank filter and I am on my way to buy a external filter here in a few min... Fuel at the engine looks nice and clean and I have been all over that this weekend...

Originally Posted by MainePorsche
Wow.
Mine wasn't that bad.
It was not that bad when i got the car and the fuel had jelled. I cleaned the tank completely with the stuff here folks recommended ...

Originally Posted by Lizard931
I have NEVER seen stuff like that in a 928 tank!!!
or any tank...

Originally Posted by 928 at last
Where have you been buying your fuel?????
If it's one particular station, I'd take the crapped up bits and beat the owner with them.
I am pretty sure its not from the gas. I get Chevron and I use it in my Blue daily driver all the time. This was added by some *****

Originally Posted by MainePorsche
Had the same.
Now I would add additives to loosen the 'gunk' and get it out to the fuel filter. After this being done, then I would change out the dirty filter.
Add a bottle of Techron and 6 oz. of MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil) to each 1/2 tank of fuel (Stan's {MrMerlin}) recommendations). Do this 5-6 times, meaning you'll put some miles on
This really worked well for me. After going through many diagnostics I ended having fuel starvation at the outlet.
Filter is clean now. Tank is flushed out... again I wll get the Techron when I go get the filter and the MMO.

I can tell you she ran like a champ when the fuel got to the motor with the 044... I am glad I put in the weaker pump, made teh problem stand out to me at 2AM last night...

I am not a happy camper and the paint shop owner and I will be coming to some agreements on how I will be happy when this is over...

.. now when I get her back on the road, I will be happy again, but damn, I have had to go through this puppy twice for the same relative issue... at least I dot have to put another timing belt in .... yet
Old 09-22-2012, 07:36 PM
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One step closer... This filter might have cost a pretty penny, but I am in love with it now
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:06 PM
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Default Fixed 89 S4 cutout while driving

Well, that was fun. Nothing like fixing the same problem twice... the long way.. geeez

So she is all back together, clean filters, clean tank, additives as recommended and she run down the road like a 928 should... ran through all the gears and got into the rev limiter intentionally to see if I could run higher RPMs... and she did as designed...

Now I just need to fix the other stuff the damn painters put together wrong... bastards...

Thank you everyone for their help..

Final conclusion:
Junk in the tank starved the engine for gas. Cleaned all fuel systems and everything is good like it should be...
Old 09-22-2012, 09:18 PM
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Nice work-thru.
Old 09-23-2012, 06:36 AM
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Glad to see the happy ending. Good work. That was one NASTY looking in-tank filter.
Old 09-23-2012, 06:58 AM
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That is one sad looking filter element it is a wonder you got anything through it at all. hopefully it stopped anything getting into the fuel pump and external filter never mind the fuel ines and injectors heaven forbid. If it had you would still know about it. I guess the question here is how degraded the external filter is.

Have you any idea yet what that crud is? Perhaps you should have it analysed if it is not prohibitively expensive to do so. Maybe some clown put too much sunflower oil in the brew!

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Wow Emerald, that just sucks. Nothing worse than trying to chase issues related to vandalism. Did you remove the tank in order to clean it the first and second time?
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Is it possible that this was gunk picked up somewhere else in the fuel lines and carried back to the tank after the fuel cooler?

Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
how did you clean the tank?
and this occurred after the tank cleaning.
Could someone have put sugar in your tank?
This isnt normal
Old 09-23-2012, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MBMB
Is it possible that this was gunk picked up somewhere else in the fuel lines and carried back to the tank after the fuel cooler?
Nope... I cleaned the entire system from back to front when I got her. She had sat for 10ish years with no one being able to get her to run (well, none of the folks that worked on it and put a mint into her... folks here could have done it )

New lines, cleaned injectors, cleaned tank, engine flushed, etc etc… Only thing I have not done is pull the motor and work the block, but there is no reason to.. she looked new.

That and it ran great, then it did not... Step Function tells me something added all at once... at least that is how I would build the fault tree on this pupply

Originally Posted by S4ordie
Wow Emerald, that just sucks. Nothing worse than trying to chase issues related to vandalism. Did you remove the tank in order to clean it the first and second time?
Did the 1st time, this time, this was fresh enough I was able to flush the tank completely by just taking the two rear bolts out and flushing it like a champ... nothing left in the tank and nothing stuck anywhere... this crap is fairly fresh... Fargen bastagies (Johnny Dangerously)...

Originally Posted by FredR
That is one sad looking filter element it is a wonder you got anything through it at all. hopefully it stopped anything getting into the fuel pump and external filter never mind the fuel lines and injectors heaven forbid. If it had you would still know about it. I guess the question here is how degraded the external filter is.

Have you any idea yet what that crud is? Perhaps you should have it analyzed if it is not prohibitively expensive to do so. Maybe some clown put too much sunflower oil in the brew!

Regards

Fred R
The external filter is nice. I replaced it anyhow, but I was shocked how clean it was after I say this. I removed it first thinking it had clogged or failed somehow and it looked new... it was only for kicks I opened the tank up since "I knew it could not be that, I had just cleaned it all" #$$@#@#@ %#%##$@


Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Glad to see the happy ending. Good work. That was one NASTY looking in-tank filter.
I've never seen anything like it. I just go the doors fixed (wired up wrong for the windows to go up and down), the speaker wires connected again, and the headlights fixed... 2nd time they blew an f'n relay on me... those damn things cost a mint... but I digress.

I am going to take her for a longer run today to make sure that what was happened before at the 30-45 min mark is truly gone....

Originally Posted by Landseer
Nice work-thru.
Thanks... lots of great speculating from the masters on this site...

New plan is to get her to Sharktoberfest...



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