Running without smog pump?
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LA air used to cause burning eyes and lungs just to walk out the door on a daily basis. My 'rents recall not being able to see clearly more than a handful of blocks from it, short of a large winter storm cleaing it out for a day or two, max.
Its geography doesn't _help_ any, but the introduction of pollution controls on cars (yes, its pollution control, not HP control) has helped immensely as the population of clean cars surpassed the population of non controlled vehicles.
The next steps are particulate pollution from diesel/etc which are causing agricultural and shipping centers to become the most polluted air quality centers now.
As other nationwide..non controlled areas grow in density, their air quality eventually comes into question, and some form of pollution control inspections slowly become the norm.
GOOD CATS don't cost HP, and once warm the air pump doesn't pump at all..so its not a loss.
Let say..a group is passing thru Denver, you may see these on an onramp:
http://aircarecolorado.com/rapidscreen
..but they dont care about outta town people, as far as I know with those scans.
But -a- form of emissions testing nationwide will eventually happen...and there aint nothing wrong with a well running car..that as long as it's within a testing window for it's age, sets a good example.
California's been passing around a thought to go to OBD2 diagnostics only..plug in and go. IMHO, that wont happen until 1995 and newer cars dramatically outnumber older cars on the road..and it becomes simple economics to dump the 'test everyone' method in place now.
Its depressing to see the quality of the air we have no choice in breathing, becoming a partisan political issue.
928 content: Cant wait to install my headers, but not until I get new cats.
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I remember playing a tennis match in Arcadia and people puking before it ended due to the smog.
Properly running the smog pump does jack related to performance. Its a small air pump that sends a small amount of air to the cats during warm up when the fuel mixture is rich, and vents to the air filter box the rest of the time. When its removed the cats will slightly foul during warm up, and burn off later, my guess is greatly reducing the life of the cats and puking out a bit of extra smog until it burns off.
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I have in-laws around Orange County and for the first 5 or 6 visits I didn't realise how close the mountains were on a clear day, despite having driven over them a bunch of times to see other family in Riverside.
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Good thread. I got X pipe headers and cats and am happy I did. I won't have to test ever again either but glad for my kids' sake I have a clean running car. ![Cool](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
Did 928s always include airpumps for the US market? Are newer cats more efficient since they don't often have air infusion?
Odd air quality can be politicized.
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Did 928s always include airpumps for the US market? Are newer cats more efficient since they don't often have air infusion?
Odd air quality can be politicized.
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Sean,
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If you want to put your car on a lift and look underneath at the air pump (easier access - let me know.
This Sunday, Malcolm will be over so feel free to drop by ... probably early afternoon.
Drop me a private note and we can arrange.
Your visit to Calgary is just in time for the annual road construction ... err .. Calgary Stampede
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If you want to put your car on a lift and look underneath at the air pump (easier access - let me know.
This Sunday, Malcolm will be over so feel free to drop by ... probably early afternoon.
Drop me a private note and we can arrange.
Your visit to Calgary is just in time for the annual road construction ... err .. Calgary Stampede
cheers
Glenn
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Air quality is not. It's your air, you do prefer it...Clem, right?
But because industry can at times act irresponsibly, we get the EPA.
Without rules, we'd be in a bad state air quality wise.
We've lost our fresh water quality in the us. It's contaminated with methyl mercury from coal burning.
But because industry can at times act irresponsibly, we get the EPA.
Without rules, we'd be in a bad state air quality wise.
We've lost our fresh water quality in the us. It's contaminated with methyl mercury from coal burning.
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Did 928s always include airpumps for the US market? Are newer cats more efficient since they don't often have air infusion?
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Winter is when the rains come and clean the air. Summer high temps/humidity bake the smog to a golden brown. Same for your lungs. The air is much, much, much, cleaner than 20-60 years ago.
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That's like pea soup fog from the bituminous coal burning due to the Industrial Revolution, it was so dense it would deposit on all the brickwork and have to be scrubbed off every couple months.
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Then let me know when commercial trucks are regulated like passenger vehicles, and the ships coming into Long Beach are getting a snif test to clean up their emissions.
Until then, bitching about 928's with open exhasut is like complaining at Miami Beach about some kid pissing in the Pacific Ocean.
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For those without smog pumps - what else did you remove as a part of that? Did you cap the pipe that ran from the cats and with what? The 87 I just bought has the smog pump delete Portensioner and I want see what else goes away. Vacuum lines and such?
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As some have noted, probably not a good idea to permanently delete the smog pump, as that will diminish the future value of your vehicle. It could never be sold to someone in a smog-check state without first putting it back on, and then the car would probably fail smog anyway because the cats would be possibly ruined from running without the smog pump.
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