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Old 05-01-2012, 04:10 PM
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Default JMO, but shouldn't hood insulation be non flame-able!!!! Yes another 928 fire

So what do you get when you mix a hot running engine, raw fuel, and stupidity?? Thats right, a fire.

As many of you know I bought that 93 GTS from South Dakota, and got it on the road. Well the car was running pretty good, but not perfect. I have changed the tires and been driving it around a little while fixing her up. One of the issues I was having is rough idle and flooding. I figured the injectors were probably messed up from sitting so long with bad gas, like maybe not clossing all the way, and dumping fuel in when it was tuned it off. So I put in some 24lb injectors, and did a shark tune. Car runs smooth and powerful, but I had to put the Air/Fuel settings at -128 in the idle range, and it still wanted to flood every time I stopped for a few minutes.
Well, I was driving it back from a customers today and it hits me..... Hey maybe the fuel damper is bad and its sucking some fuel up the vacuum line. I pull over into this pafking lot, pop the hood, and pull the vacuum line. Sure enough fuel sprays out the top of the damper. OH ****!! WHOOSH!! Yes Hello....FIRE!! So I quickly turn the car off and look for something to smother the fire with. After a few minutes I get the engine fire out but the hood insulation foam is still burning... WTH!! Why is that flame-able?? I go to rip it off and the stuff is like hot tar and sticks to my hand. OH YEAH, that hurt like hell, but I got it off and and away for the car.
The good news is I kept a somewhat cool head, and got the fire out fairly quickly. I was able to plug the damper and drive the car back to the shop. Has anyone ever had a damper or regulator go bad like this? Oh BTW no more flooding LOL

Here is a pic.... most of what you see is the melted hood foam that dripped on the engine.
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Some do..the 928's is more sound/decoration.
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Count yourself lucky that's all that happened.
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I see Nicole has replacements for $59.

"Made of 1/4 inch nitrile vinyl closed cell foam rubber, these hood liners will not absorb water or oil. They are light, about 11 ounces on average, are fire retardant and insulate against sound and heat."

http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladv...94&i=233208075
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I feel for you for the mess. You are fortunate.
Fuel system repair in a parking lot with the engine running ?
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Count yourself lucky that's all that happened.
Hey Mark..... that order I placed yesterday, I may now need to add a couple things to it if you haven't sent the stuff out yet??

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Originally Posted by MainePorsche
I feel for you for the mess, but you are fortunate.
Fuel system repair in a parking lot with the engine running ?
I had never heard of a damper being bad before, and didn't actually think it would be bad. I had no intention of repairing it there, just had a thought and took a quick peek to see. Just was not thinking that fuel my spray out.
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You got off easy.

Looks like your crossbrace is bent.

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Originally Posted by victor25
So what do you get when you mix a hot running engine, raw fuel, and stupidity?? Thats right, a fire.

As many of you know I bought that 93 GTS from South Dakota, and got it on the road. Well the car was running pretty good, but not perfect. I have changed the tires and been driving it around a little while fixing her up. One of the issues I was having is rough idle and flooding. I figured the injectors were probably messed up from sitting so long with bad gas, like maybe not clossing all the way, and dumping fuel in when it was tuned it off. So I put in some 24lb injectors, and did a shark tune. Car runs smooth and powerful, but I had to put the Air/Fuel settings at -128 in the idle range, and it still wanted to flood every time I stopped for a few minutes.
Well, I was driving it back from a customers today and it hits me..... Hey maybe the fuel damper is bad and its sucking some fuel up the vacuum line. I pull over into this pafking lot, pop the hood, and pull the vacuum line. Sure enough fuel sprays out the top of the damper. OH ****!! WHOOSH!! Yes Hello....FIRE!! So I quickly turn the car off and look for something to smother the fire with. After a few minutes I get the engine fire out but the hood insulation foam is still burning... WTH!! Why is that flame-able?? I go to rip it off and the stuff is like hot tar and sticks to my hand. OH YEAH, that hurt like hell, but I got it off and and away for the car.
The good news is I kept a somewhat cool head, and got the fire out fairly quickly. I was able to plug the damper and drive the car back to the shop. Has anyone ever had a damper or regulator go bad like this? Oh BTW no more flooding LOL

Here is a pic.... most of what you see is the melted hood foam that dripped on the engine.
Super common. The "additives" they are putting in the fuel are apparently "eating" the rubber diaphragms up at a faster rate than the "original fuel" that they were designed to work with did...or they are all just all getting old.
I just looked through my sales history and I installed/used/sold 12 sets of dampers and regulators, last year. (I figure that they are all the same age, so I replace them all, when one or two are leaking, usually.)

I used so many, last year, that I now have "multiples" of them, in stock.
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Yikes, that's a harrowing tale. My hoodliner is still infused with brake fluid from when my Power Bleeder hose blew ... no idea how to get it out of there.

Looks like your car is like a cat with 9 lives ... and the legend grows!
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ouch... I learned that huffing and puffing doesn't work either. Just sayin'. Glad you and the car are okay.
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Most cars spend 10-15 years on the road. All 928's are over 17 years old. A lot has changed.

Glad you and the car are okay!
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Originally Posted by MainePorsche
I feel for you for the mess. You are fortunate.
Fuel system repair in a parking lot with the engine running ?
Victor
No jest meant.
Glad you're OK.
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Originally Posted by MainePorsche
Victor
No jest meant.
Glad you're OK.
Craig
No Worries Mate... It was a dumb move on my part to leave the engine running. I just posted this so no one else makes the same stupid mistake. You know what they say... Wise people learn from other fools mistakes LOL
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