'85-'86.5 Sharkvent Install Question?
#31
There must be a cheaper and simpler solution.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-85400/
#32
Plus there is the fact that to install that kind of baffle you have to remove the intake - which adds rather a lot to the expense/hassle factor. Even if you do it all yourself you'd want to do some intake refresh items...
I do have the 928 Intl baffle plate - I also have modified my oil filler to open up the bottom cavities, add a new deflector plate with side wings - stuff it full of copper scrubbies and add a big filler vent to my Provent. Seems to work OK - however - the scrubbie filled filler stack with the provent plumbing in the bottom of the fill port makes filling a nightmare - you need to bung the provent feed and the oil fill rate is now so slow its just impractical to use...
I eventually added a new oil filler line direct to the sump in the old style location (where there is just a flat on the new sump top...). Nothing is ever as simple as you might wish for...
Alan
I do have the 928 Intl baffle plate - I also have modified my oil filler to open up the bottom cavities, add a new deflector plate with side wings - stuff it full of copper scrubbies and add a big filler vent to my Provent. Seems to work OK - however - the scrubbie filled filler stack with the provent plumbing in the bottom of the fill port makes filling a nightmare - you need to bung the provent feed and the oil fill rate is now so slow its just impractical to use...
I eventually added a new oil filler line direct to the sump in the old style location (where there is just a flat on the new sump top...). Nothing is ever as simple as you might wish for...
Alan
#33
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 22,846
Likes: 340
From: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
#34
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 22,846
Likes: 340
From: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
.......I do have the 928 Intl baffle plate - I also have modified my oil filler to open up the bottom cavities, add a new deflector plate with side wings - stuff it full of copper scrubbies and add a big filler vent to my Provent. Seems to work OK - however - the scrubbie filled filler stack with the provent plumbing in the bottom of the fill port makes filling a nightmare - you need to bung the provent feed and the oil fill rate is now so slow its just impractical to use......
Rate of fill goes down to 1gallon/hr. Took me 2 hrs to fill the car.
#35
Thread Starter
Sharkaholic
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,162
Likes: 2
From: Rochester, WA
You're right Imre, it doesn't need to be a Sharkvent, or a Provent, to keep oil out of the intake. It can be a cheap collection of hoses, fittings and a 5quart catch can to have the same results. However for this particular car I decided that DR's Sharkvent fit with my overall intentions for this 928. It is not likely that I will keep this one for myself, so in order for it to be appealling to a large group of potential buyers, I opted for the system that uses Porsche hoses, clamps, fittings and a very efficient seperator, pre-plumbed back to the oil sump kit. Bonus is that it has an installation manual so that the future owner/mechanic can uninstall/reinstall its' components when conducting repairs.
#36
The boot are not too short. The extra space on the 'T' is to hold ALL of he boot whilst the plenem is installed, then the boot is slid out to the rib [stop point] on the plenem.
I cut some longer silicone boots to do what you suggest but couldn't fit them.
I cut some longer silicone boots to do what you suggest but couldn't fit them.
Dam!
Does everyone powdercoat the central T, and not realize you need to go all the way to the end, because the rubber boot is not long enough!
I did the same thing! How come no one mentions that in their powder coating tips!
I spoke to the person on ebay who makes the aftermarket silicone boots.
She said she may be able to make one longer, which could fix that powdercoating situation.
Maybe slightly longer boots would fix the situation with the torque rings.
Does everyone powdercoat the central T, and not realize you need to go all the way to the end, because the rubber boot is not long enough!
I did the same thing! How come no one mentions that in their powder coating tips!
I spoke to the person on ebay who makes the aftermarket silicone boots.
She said she may be able to make one longer, which could fix that powdercoating situation.
Maybe slightly longer boots would fix the situation with the torque rings.
#38
+1 I tried the generic catch can thing and ended up with a Provent as I had issues with the can overflowing with the oil when the oil level in the pan was on the high side of the normal range on the stick, plus draining it was a royal PITA. I didn't do the full Sharkvent system, I bought a Provent and did the plumbing myself. Having it drain back to the pan with the check valve is nice, I haven't touched the system for a year now after install. Routing the hose under the PS plenum is definitely challenging it is a tight squeeze.
#39
For clarity sake, the SharkVent System Shane has is approx 3 years old (July 2009?) and is one or the first few 85-86 Versions. The Cam Cover hose issue was caught by someone shortly after that and corrected. My apologies to Shane that we missed updating him years ago. Also, Thank you Shane very much for posting your fix, which was almost exactly what I would have suggested with that earlier system.
However, approx 2.5 years ago after a lot more feedback and testing I did a complete redesign of the SharkVent Systems that eliminated any issues with Cam Cover connections completely. This redesign made the system much more effective and even reduced the load on the ProVent Separator. The side benefit was also that simplified the system dramatically and made for an even easier installation than it already was.
Hope that helps and sorry I didn't see this thread sooner!
Dave
__________________
David Roberts
2010 Jaguar XKR Coupe - 510HP Stock - Liquid Silver Metallic
928 Owners Club Co-Founder
Rennlist 928 Forum Main Sponsor
www.928gt.com
928 Specialists on Facebook - 928Specialists
Sharks in the Mountains on Facebook - 928SITM
David Roberts
2010 Jaguar XKR Coupe - 510HP Stock - Liquid Silver Metallic
928 Owners Club Co-Founder
Rennlist 928 Forum Main Sponsor
www.928gt.com
928 Specialists on Facebook - 928Specialists
Sharks in the Mountains on Facebook - 928SITM
#40
Administrator - "Tyson"
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,628
Likes: 2,248
From: Up Nort
#41
http://www.airwolf.com/Products_AirOilSeparators.htm
#42
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 22,846
Likes: 340
From: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
The SC bracket was already installed when I built this and it was partially blocking the front bolt of the oil pan block-off plate. I also made the entire thing a little too long. If it was a couple inches shorter, it would be easier to route a drain line. To be honest, I wasn't expecting the seperator to work as well as it did but draining it is easy, so I left it as is.
#43
Thread Starter
Sharkaholic
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,162
Likes: 2
From: Rochester, WA
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you yet, playing catch-up now that the major SITM plans/changes are done.
For clarity sake, the SharkVent System Shane has is approx 3 years old (July 2009?) and is one or the first few 85-86 Versions. The Cam Cover hose issue was caught by someone shortly after that and corrected. My apologies to Shane that we missed updating him years ago. Also, Thank you Shane very much for posting your fix, which was almost exactly what I would have suggested with that earlier system.
However, approx 2.5 years ago after a lot more feedback and testing I did a complete redesign of the SharkVent Systems that eliminated any issues with Cam Cover connections completely. This redesign made the system much more effective and even reduced the load on the ProVent Separator. The side benefit was also that simplified the system dramatically and made for an even easier installation than it already was.
Hope that helps and sorry I didn't see this thread sooner!
Dave
For clarity sake, the SharkVent System Shane has is approx 3 years old (July 2009?) and is one or the first few 85-86 Versions. The Cam Cover hose issue was caught by someone shortly after that and corrected. My apologies to Shane that we missed updating him years ago. Also, Thank you Shane very much for posting your fix, which was almost exactly what I would have suggested with that earlier system.
However, approx 2.5 years ago after a lot more feedback and testing I did a complete redesign of the SharkVent Systems that eliminated any issues with Cam Cover connections completely. This redesign made the system much more effective and even reduced the load on the ProVent Separator. The side benefit was also that simplified the system dramatically and made for an even easier installation than it already was.
Hope that helps and sorry I didn't see this thread sooner!
Dave
#44
I can relate about the 3 (or more) year hiatis, hopefully your's was voluntary!
It is great to know you are back at it again! Funny about 5 years worth of parts, sounds very familiar..Ha, Ha!!
Still hoping you can make it SITM, Jeannie, I and many others would love to see you make it out here someday!
All the best,
Dave
#45
Hi DR.,
Do you have any complete Sharkvent for sale now?
Thanks
Do you have any complete Sharkvent for sale now?
Thanks
Hi Shane,
I can relate about the 3 (or more) year hiatis, hopefully your's was voluntary!
It is great to know you are back at it again! Funny about 5 years worth of parts, sounds very familiar..Ha, Ha!!
Still hoping you can make it SITM, Jeannie, I and many others would love to see you make it out here someday!
All the best,
Dave
I can relate about the 3 (or more) year hiatis, hopefully your's was voluntary!
It is great to know you are back at it again! Funny about 5 years worth of parts, sounds very familiar..Ha, Ha!!
Still hoping you can make it SITM, Jeannie, I and many others would love to see you make it out here someday!
All the best,
Dave