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Old 03-23-2012, 03:46 PM
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Default CV boots Porsche version

I was going to order to Porsche a CV Boot KIT but I found a poltergeist. The price of the kit at pet 7.2 says it is 46 euros. But if I split the kit in its separate parts it is 16 euros + the price of the grease that is marked as 0.00. Does it means that the grease is the remaining 30 euros?????.

What is stopping me from ordering?...:

1 dust bellow
1 circlip
1 clip
1 clamp

...with the same part numbers in the kit for a total of 16 euros, and then using a huge can of Molykote BR2 Plus (MoS2) I have in the garage waiting to be used? (I think is the proper grease for this task).

Or maybe there is another thing I'm missing that justifies the 46€ price... attached I post a capture of what I'm saying. I have to buy more than one kit, so I thought it deserved to be investigated.

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It must be very special grease.

As you can see, it's actually considered by Porsche to be priceless.
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actually considered by Porsche to be priceless.
. Thanks RC, I think I will buy directly from Porsche (I'm in Europe) in separate part numbers instead of the kit and then use my molykote. I have seen that at 928intl they also have the kit for $46. I Still dont understand why someone will pay that instead of paying $16 for the separate parts.

Let's see if somebody shed some light before it's monday and I order the parts separately...
Old 03-24-2012, 02:35 PM
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You looked at the parts in the kit? Seems so. That's accessible in the PET.

Boots and the big clamp are what you need. Add your own bearing grease and a clamp for the small end.

I've used aftermarket kits with success and those are reasonable.
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You'll do better by calling or emailing Roger right here in TX USA. He'll get what you want and have it shipped direct, or through his wherehouse and still save money. No Poltergiests.
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I buy the same kits for my OB from VW through Altum foriegn car parts here for about $20 canadian grease included call around some more before you buy.
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Originally Posted by tailpipe
I buy the same kits for my OB from VW through Altum foriegn car parts here for about $20 canadian grease included call around some more before you buy.
Talk about cost savings. I found a kit for a VW van that fit my Ferrari Mondial. Ferrari wanted $113 per kit, times four kits. The VW van kit was $46 and that had both boots and clips and grease for one axle.
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Its my understanding the the CV joints from the VW van are the same as used in the early 928s also might even be the same ones for the ferrari also
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When its Porsche parts, don't trust catalog prices.
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rock auto usually has everyting in stock
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Originally Posted by GlenL
You looked at the parts in the kit? Seems so.

I've used aftermarket kits with success and those are reasonable.
Thanks Glen. The reason of not using the aftermarket kit in this case is because after reading many posts and the problems that people with early cars are having fitting their boots, I found this words from Jim Bailey from 928intl:

"The standard replacement boot is too small the original Porsche boot fits just fine costs a couple bucks more. The replacement part number used is the same but the boots are DIFFERENT. Here is a case where we only sell the Porsche boot because it fits !"

"The normal aftermarket replacement CV Boot does not fit 78-81 cars. Only the Porsche boot in the Porsche box is big enough."

I found a cheap kit from GKN with same part number for the kit I'm talking about: 928-332-922-01. But the boot in this kit, even having the same part number has only 57mm in the large side, when my car has a boot of around 70mm in the larger side. So Jim words explains the poltergeist.

Originally Posted by docmirror
You'll do better by calling or emailing Roger right here in TX USA. He'll get what you want and have it shipped direct, or through his wherehouse and still save money. No Poltergiests.
docmirror, I'm sure Roger will serve me the right boot. I read he is aware of this problem in other posts. I'm in Europe, so getting the boot direct from Porche (2km from home) for 12€ will be faster.

Originally Posted by danglerb
When its Porsche parts, don't trust catalog prices.
Danglerb, I download the new updated prices from the Pet 7.2 monthly. until now everytime I order everything seems to match. I will call them on monday to order each separate part. Probably on tuesday I could got to the Porsche Center to get them, I will let you know how prices, size of boots, etc goes.

Originally Posted by tailpipe
Its my understanding the the CV joints from the VW van are the same as used in the early 928s also might even be the same ones for the ferrari also
Thanks tailpipe. As said I'm going for Porsches. In this case there is this problem with boot sizes. Sharkskin has the same problems as many others. See text above and below picture #3:

http://members.rennlist.com/sharkski...ftsRematch.htm

Thanks everybody for your help.
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Originally Posted by rockatansky

"The standard replacement boot is too small the original Porsche boot fits just fine costs a couple bucks more. The replacement part number used is the same but the boots are DIFFERENT. Here is a case where we only sell the Porsche boot because it fits !"
I wondered about your model year.

I agree with Jim's assessment that the boots are small, but "too small?" Nope. I recently did this with the aftermarket boots and it worked fine.

Back in the dim (and I mean dim) recesses of my brain I recall having exactly that conversation with Jim. "The boots you sent won't work." His patience always impressed me.

Takes some extra effort but the smallish aftermarket boots (from GKN Loebro, $11) work. The trick is to work the boot over the collar by sticking your fingers inside the boot through the collar. Maybe a picture would help. A third hand would have been helpful. A half hour for the first one to figure it out. A minute for the last one with the technique understood. Put the boot on the collars and clamp them down before putting either onto the shaft.
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Originally Posted by GlenL
I wondered about your model year.

I agree with Jim's assessment that the boots are small, but "too small?" Nope. I recently did this with the aftermarket boots and it worked fine.

Takes some extra effort but the smallish aftermarket boots (from GKN Loebro, $11) work.
Mine is a Euro 1980 5 speed.

Is good to know that you made a GKN kit fit. Because I have (relatively near) an online shop in the uk with the GKN kit complete for 15€ with grease, clamps, etc.

http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod35...ot--Porsche_4/

My axis are the ones that have allen bolts on both sides. I think thats the version that needs the earlier boots. I suppose is the same that you have. I remember a picture of sharkskin fitting the boot. I attach it here. Also attach a picture of the CV joints. This are not mine, I still have them in the car, but it looks like the version I have... (with allen both sides).

So with your comments, I add one vote to the 928 332 922 01 from GKN. Seems tricky but possible to make them fit.
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I've done this on both of my '80 S cars now. Just one in my avatar.

That picture above shows the hard way. The tool requires extra stretching and possible tearing of the rubber.

Stick fingers up through the metal collar and stretch the boot over the lip from the inside.
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Originally Posted by GlenL
I've done this on both of my '80 S cars now. Just one in my avatar.
...probably the same cv joint config then.

Stick fingers up through the metal collar and stretch the boot over the lip from the inside.
Pushing out with your fingers from inside the boot sounds logical, you can make a lot of force like that and most important don't break the boot.

If other people has had success with the older cars and the GKN kit will be great to know their experiences.


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