Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

K jetronic guru needed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-04-2012, 01:17 AM
  #31  
Bikeartist1
AutoX
Thread Starter
 
Bikeartist1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cali
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lol go back, not sure.. I've read articles on k jetronic til I'm blue probably in excess of 100 pages and still not an expert yet but hopefully getting there.I'm willing to bet the flow is up to par only witnessed by eye when I pulled in tank pump out thinking it was causing a restriction in pressure because of filter on end of pump. I installed later model tank fitting with strainer and no pump. Obviously my pump doesn't need back up pump with the pressures I'm seeing.Just a quick thing I noticed while checking for blockage upon opening the fitting at distributor from wur when wur was blocked I did have some fuel coming out of distributor which I assumed was due to no pressure coming from wur line to counteract.Great article by the way it's a shame you forgot to take some pics which the Ferrari article covered. Were getting there!
Old 01-04-2012, 01:20 AM
  #32  
jpitman2
Rennlist Member
 
jpitman2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,283
Received 48 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Try the flush trick by bridging the pump relay, and loading the gas with berrymans or similar, allow to run for as long as you can stay near by....with an extinguisher! then see what control you get. In fact if you leave a guage fitted to WUR line showing control, you might see a change in reading ?
jp
Old 01-04-2012, 01:32 AM
  #33  
Bikeartist1
AutoX
Thread Starter
 
Bikeartist1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cali
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have 1 bottle of cleaner premixed into gas in tank roughly 4 gals the problem is car won't run for more than start up maybe at best 20 seconds the only way I have achieved it running for maybe a couple minutes at a time is by opening up the sensor plate with a thin metal shim and then feathering it open with my hand but eventually dies
Old 01-04-2012, 01:37 AM
  #34  
jpitman2
Rennlist Member
 
jpitman2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,283
Received 48 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Bridge the pump relay to force it to circulate gas.....A few years ago i replaced my tank and some hoses, and based on an experience of doing LOTS (LOTS! - a couple of flattened batteries) of cranking before the lines were filled with gas, this time I bridged the pump relay, and let it run for 10-15mins - fired up FIRST try. Its a good leak test as well.
jp
Old 01-04-2012, 01:54 AM
  #35  
Bikeartist1
AutoX
Thread Starter
 
Bikeartist1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cali
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great idea for cleaning never thought about that.
Old 01-04-2012, 03:17 PM
  #36  
karl ruiter
Rennlist Member
 
karl ruiter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Honolulu and sometimes L.A.
Posts: 3,366
Received 192 Likes on 128 Posts
Default

With the screen removed from the WUR your cold control pressure should be too low, making the car run too rich when cold. But that is only what should happen. Really the FD and the WUR work as a pair and if there is a FD issue then the WUR and control pressure will not have the effect you would expect. I was helping somebody with a '78 the other day that had a control pressure of 5bar (almost 3x what it should have been). I would have though this was because the WUR was blocked, but it was not blocked. Also I would have though the car would run completely lean, but the plugs were black. Pretty sure there is a FD issue there which is somehow making all the control pressure stuff I would expect be wrong.
Old 01-05-2012, 12:29 PM
  #37  
Luis_M
Instructor
 
Luis_M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jadz928
2 springs in the WUR if it has a vacuum port. One small on inside a large one.

Another thing to look at is the vacuum port connect to the WUR (this one on the side).
Since at idle it's pulling vacuum (and dropping the pin in the WUR to relief pressure), check to make sure the WUR is holding at 13-15 in hg.
Check the connection hose to the WUR for the same.
Make sure you have a tight seal at the union of the two.
The information above is partly incorrect. The pin inside the WUR actually goes up and increases control pressure at idle. It's counterintuitive, but if you disassemble the thing and leave only the inner spring on its seat on the base of the WUR, you will see that the spring goes up when you apply vaccuum on the side, not down. This leans out the mix at idle by increasing control pressure. The WSM shows about a 0.6 bar increase with 460-600mbar vacuum (see spec charts in section 25).
Old 01-05-2012, 01:03 PM
  #38  
Jadz928
Rennlist Member
 
Jadz928's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Frankenmuth, Michigan
Posts: 8,690
Received 128 Likes on 78 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Luis_M
The information above is partly incorrect. The pin inside the WUR actually goes up and increases control pressure at idle. It's counterintuitive, but if you disassemble the thing and leave only the inner spring on its seat on the base of the WUR, you will see that the spring goes up when you apply vaccuum on the side, not down. This leans out the mix at idle by increasing control pressure. The WSM shows about a 0.6 bar increase with 460-600mbar vacuum (see spec charts in section 25).
Ya know, Luis, I will get this right one of these times! Vacuum at idle raises the pin... will go back and edit post. Thanks (again)!



Quick Reply: K jetronic guru needed



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 07:39 AM.