Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

ARP Head Stud Torque

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-09-2011, 11:34 AM
  #16  
Mike Simard
Three Wheelin'
 
Mike Simard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,765
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by BC
Mike - Are you still making your head studs? I may as well use them as the same block has your main studs. I'll take out the arp studs somehow, maybe one at a time or something, and replace them with yours. I also need the rest of the clutch stuff - I think its just the hydraulic throw out bearing casing. I have to find some more stuff here to sell to pay for your shiny metal car parts (crack cocaine).

What is your torque sequence for your head studs?
I have head and main studs in stock as well as the adapters to use the Tilton HTOB.
The tightening method is an angle to turn after an initial torque value. The actual angle is some odd number based on testing actual studs from a heat lot batch. It's not easy to keep the stud in tension through the range, there's a window and even with my necked down design and angle method, it's a close thing.

The idea of having to re-torque means something is not right. If the fastener is able to maintain tension through the range, that is pointless.

BTW, I'm quoting some 'engine' studs right now for a non-automotive application and they are exotic. Made from a 285ksi alloy. It was a surprise to see the drawings because they look just like my 928 studs!
Old 12-10-2011, 11:37 AM
  #17  
toofast928
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
toofast928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: N NJ
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Thanks for the reply.
For me I didn't want to reuse the OEM studs. The ARP kit is available and has a very good reputation. Already have clocked 3-4K miles on this engine build with boost. Today I'm just upgrading the heads. Washers and nuts were replaced this time around.
I am using the OEM head gasket for the sole reason don't want to re-torque after a heat cycle. Would prefer to re-torque but this engine it's just not practical.
Old 12-10-2011, 01:57 PM
  #18  
BC
Rennlist Member
 
BC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 25,147
Received 73 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

What about circulating hot water through the engine at about 175 degrees? The F1 teams do that with water and oil prior to starting.
Old 12-11-2011, 10:37 AM
  #19  
toofast928
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
toofast928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: N NJ
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

That's not a bad idea. I could use tap water and crank up the temp. hmmmm
Old 12-11-2011, 11:15 AM
  #20  
Imo000
Captain Obvious
Super User
 
Imo000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,846
Received 338 Likes on 244 Posts
Default

Doesn't the coolant get a lot warmer than 175 around the fire rings?
Old 12-11-2011, 05:09 PM
  #21  
slate blue
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
slate blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,315
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

I have sent you a PM regarding the installation of these studs, I do acknowledge others difficulties and the advice given and while I have installed these on three engines using a specifically different technique, i have not had any trouble however I would not by choice reuse them by given the feedback I have now read.
Old 12-11-2011, 05:23 PM
  #22  
BC
Rennlist Member
 
BC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 25,147
Received 73 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Share?
Old 12-11-2011, 05:48 PM
  #23  
slate blue
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
slate blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,315
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BC
Share?
If Tony has success, he can then release what I have advised has been successful for me, otherwise there is no point.
Old 12-12-2011, 02:02 AM
  #24  
m42racer
Three Wheelin'
 
m42racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,666
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

The issue with ARP studs has never been about the studs. It has always been about the parts they clamp together. For sure the assembly and procedures required to use Steel studs in Aluminum engines is and needs to be different than steel engines.



Quick Reply: ARP Head Stud Torque



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 07:08 PM.