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Old 12-08-2011, 06:15 PM
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Plenty of us have non interference motors, put on a set and see how they look after some miles.

BTW beating a dead horse is a dandy way to find a possum.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:18 PM
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IMHO, still too many variables here. Different belts. Different cameras, lenses, focal lengths, shooting distance, etc.

Best I can do quickly with available photos is this, but I could do way better with the parts in hand. I'd like side views of a couple of teeth from both gears at a resolution of at least 10 times what I've seen so far (i.e., on a scale more like this example, a bearing that many of us are familiar with that's 14 mm in diameter).

Post #138 definitely shows some significant gaps between the belt and the tops of the gear teeth. So... time to wrap the exact same belt around Carl's gear and a Porsche gear and see what that reveals.

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Be careful about drawing conclusions from this animation; source material isn't that good, and I'm pretty sure the scales aren't quite identical between the two photos.

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Old 12-08-2011, 07:03 PM
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As Roger said, not to be negative, but I see the gaps and that would be a sore spot for me as extra movement in the tooth area will mean extra ware.

I did not know that it was not a gates belt and will like to see how the pictures look with the other belt on a 04 gear

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Old 12-08-2011, 07:29 PM
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I think you guys are seeing black cam gear contrasting against the fuzzies on the edge of a lighter colored belt and interpreting them as gaps.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer
I think you guys are seeing black cam gear contrasting against the fuzzies on the edge of a lighter colored belt and interpreting them as gaps.
Hmmm.. you could be right.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:54 PM
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Well if your manufacturer used laser profiling to match these gears to the genuine factory ones, and they are not matching, there should not be a problem for them to cover the cost and redo the manufacturing to make them match.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by namasgt
Well if your manufacturer used laser profiling to match these gears to the genuine factory ones, and they are not matching, there should not be a problem for them to cover the cost and redo the manufacturing to make them match.
Think you maybe putting the cart before the dead horse.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:15 PM
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Note to self, do not make aftermarket cam gears...
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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You guys keep saying that some are beating a dead horse, but you also do not understand that there are many, many different tooth profiles out there, some of those are very close to what we have on our cars. Those same ones that look close will shred a belt in less than 10k miles. Most of us want to be sure of what is available is good to use.

People went round and round about what water pumps are good.

People still argue about oil.

I didn't take Porkens word that the tensioner was a good set up until it had been around for a while and tested.

The same for something as important as cam gears needs the same scrutiny. Personally, I'd love to have one of these in hand to do my own comparison so I can make up my own mind.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:33 PM
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^^^^ My thoughts exactly
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:34 PM
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but Sean..........using a particular product will allow the 928 engine run for a 1 million miles !!!


............and some will still be debating from their wheelchairs.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:37 PM
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How about some real world testing.

All this "scrutiny" is somewhat pointless without it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:38 PM
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The Porkensioner thread went 12 pages and then was closed...
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:43 PM
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This is just hilarious.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Constantine
How about some real world testing.

All this "scrutiny" is somewhat pointless without it.
Great idea Constantine and I agree.

Not on my car though .. are you volunteering?
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