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Old 11-20-2011, 04:11 PM
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The rear of my 1987 is leaning to the right. Is this a simple ride height adjustment of the shocks or is there something else I should be checking?
Old 11-20-2011, 04:14 PM
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Well..I would suppose that should be adjusted, yes.

If not frozen in place, the ride height is adjustable.
Old 11-20-2011, 04:28 PM
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Has it just starting leaning? Or have you just noticed it? The ride height is adjustable, but should check the spring/shock for proper operation.
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:57 PM
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Check the coil springs, I found the bottom coil broken off one of the springs when I was fitting new dampers on my old S2.
Old 11-20-2011, 10:36 PM
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have you been driving into a driveway at an angle?
if so try coming in from the opposite angle this will return the suspension to a more level stance.

Before you start adjusting the collars or jack the car take readings of the ride height,
then remove the wheels then measure the collars to see if they are the same height from the bottom of each shock they should be withing 1 turn of each other,
also look for bent sway bar links
Old 11-21-2011, 12:53 PM
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Thanks, everyone, for the ideas. I will check on these.
Old 11-21-2011, 09:11 PM
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something interesting for reference here. Mine too is uneven to the left. When I took it to Colin, we intended to correct this, however placing the car on the scales it was dead 50% even on all 4 corners! So we elected not to touch it as it really can get better than this.... Just have to get used to it I guess. My race car which is also corner balanced is lower a bit on one side...
Old 11-22-2011, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DJF1
something interesting for reference here. Mine too is uneven to the left. When I took it to Colin, we intended to correct this, however placing the car on the scales it was dead 50% even on all 4 corners! So we elected not to touch it as it really can get better than this.... Just have to get used to it I guess. My race car which is also corner balanced is lower a bit on one side...
Ideally the car should have 50% of its weight on the Left Front and Right Rear tires, and 50% on the Right Front and Left Rear as well as Front to Rear.

You may want to check your tires to see if any are physically bigger than the others (in your cases it would be oposite corner of the on low side). Also, disconnect your anti-swaybars and see if your car looks/scales the same.
Old 11-22-2011, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by T_MaX
Ideally the car should have 50% of its weight on the Left Front and Right Rear tires, and 50% on the Right Front and Left Rear as well as Front to Rear.

You may want to check your tires to see if any are physically bigger than the others (in your cases it would be oposite corner of the on low side). Also, disconnect your anti-swaybars and see if your car looks/scales the same.
I'm quite familiar with corner balancing, I have spend countless hours sitting on the drivers seat with my old mechanic in TX trying to find the perfect balance on a 911 which is a royal PITA. You do shift weight by adjusting the ride height and I also know that once you adjust in an X pattern. Change one corner the opposite on the X gets affected.
My point is that sometimes and depending on the driver's weight if you properly want to corner balance the car, you will end up having a bit of a ride height difference. It may be a small difference but visually you can tell. In the case of my 928 its perfectly balanced at 50% weight on each corner. I guess we could play with raising and adjusting but its a pretty painful process at times so I did not see any reason to mess a good thing on account of the ride height balance...

Do you think the sways are binding?
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Well I serenely didn't mean to touch the nerve that got your undies in a big Texas sized knot.

All I meant to say is that if any car has a corner sitting lower than the others, there is a problem. Might be a as simple as a broken/separated steel belt in one of the tires or as major as a bent frame, bent control arms, bent anti-sway bar, bent shock etc.

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Old 11-22-2011, 03:04 AM
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T_MaX,
I can see that you have not been around for a long time by your comment about Devek in another thread.
Danny was not getting his nickers in a twist, he was simply correcting your info.

As well, disconnecting the swaybar would only be done with adjustable drop links.
Old 11-22-2011, 03:30 AM
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Has it just starting leaning? Or have you just noticed it? The ride height is adjustable, but should check the spring/shock for proper operation.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:06 AM
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T_MaX,
Danny was not getting his nickers in a twist, he was simply correcting your info.
You have personally verified this, yes? Correction not required.

Originally Posted by Lizard931
As well, disconnecting the swaybar would only be done with adjustable drop links.
Are you saying the anti-sway bar can only be disconnected if the a 928 has an aftermarket adjustable drop links?

Colin, you and Danny obviously know way more than I about this kind of stuff so I will just bow out of this discussion.
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Originally Posted by T_MaX
Well I serenely didn't mean to touch the nerve that got your undies in a big Texas sized knot.

All I meant to say is that if any car has a corner sitting lower than the others, there is a problem. Might be a as simple as a broken/separated steel belt in one of the tires or as major as a bent frame, bent control arms, bent anti-sway bar, bent shock etc.

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You did not touch a nerve at all! I simply did not understand your post. You stated how the weight distribution should be where I told you that mine was already at 50% in all corners. I clarified then my post by stating my experience with corner balancing and asked a question to clarify your comments.

Since you clarified I see that you state that there should be a problem. That is where it was not clear in your initial post. So for the shake of accuracy I will attempt to explain more why I disagree, after checking the state of your car, suspension etc.

I too was troubled back in 2001 when my mechanic, Mike Callas of Rennsport in Sealy TX, setup my car when we changed out the suspension. Mike who I hope you know his background ( LeMans, Reiser Callas team etc) explained that in order to do a proper corner balance the ride height will rarely be ever equal from side to side as the driver weight and the gas in the tank to begin with vary from car to car and at the time of the procedure. Not to mention equipment in the car, rim and tire weights, diameter of the tire, setting up the rake etc.

So the first car he setup was my 993 cabrio after we changed to H&R coilovers and new Euro Sways. The difference was quite pronounced, but not as pronounced as when we setup my race car in 2003 with brand new JRZ's, TRG adjustable sways, monoball suspension bits etc.

Therefore, it is perfectly normal that a properly setup car can have a ride height difference and its not necessarily a problem. I agree with you that everything should be re-checked, but if everything checks out, then I dont see an issue with different ride height.

Hope that clarifies my position in this matter.
Old 11-22-2011, 02:15 PM
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