Parts Cleaning and a Link to a Warning
11-17-2011, 02:03 PM
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My dad has been a gear head his whole life and never very careful about solvents and such. He is in his 80s now and has a kind of dementia called Frontal Temperal Dementia. It is not unusual for folks his age to have some mental imparement, but the thing is that some of his old shop buddies have pretty much the exact same thing. Can't help wondering if there is a link.
Not so bad to make it to your 80s before the major health problems hit you, but his condition stops him from being able to drive, or fly or ride or being able to work on anything or build anything. I do what I can, which includes a weekly drive around the island in my convertible 928 (I find he is most like his old self at high speed) and bringing over snap together lego car kits that he assembles with my 5 year old daughter (she does all the work because he cannot manage even this). But he cannot understand or accept his condition and as a result is pretty unhappy much of the time. Every time I see him he asks if he can buy my 944 off me because he really 'needs some wheels', but he would not even be able to remember or figure out how to get the key into the ignition.
Anyway, I can't be sure the auto shop fumes had anything to do with his condition, although I suspect they might have and I sure wish he was better able to enjoy this time of his life.
With regard to the birth defect deal, my understanding is that men make fresh new sperm every day, while women carry the same eggs their whole life (according to my wife's Phd advisor who is a well regarded biologist and would not let his wife help us with his Ghia fuel lines). So exposure to toxins is far worse for future mothers than it is for future fathers. If this is correct and you are a guy trying to get get your girl pregnant, you should probably take a vacation from the toxins for a little while before starting the baby.
Not so bad to make it to your 80s before the major health problems hit you, but his condition stops him from being able to drive, or fly or ride or being able to work on anything or build anything. I do what I can, which includes a weekly drive around the island in my convertible 928 (I find he is most like his old self at high speed) and bringing over snap together lego car kits that he assembles with my 5 year old daughter (she does all the work because he cannot manage even this). But he cannot understand or accept his condition and as a result is pretty unhappy much of the time. Every time I see him he asks if he can buy my 944 off me because he really 'needs some wheels', but he would not even be able to remember or figure out how to get the key into the ignition.
Anyway, I can't be sure the auto shop fumes had anything to do with his condition, although I suspect they might have and I sure wish he was better able to enjoy this time of his life.
With regard to the birth defect deal, my understanding is that men make fresh new sperm every day, while women carry the same eggs their whole life (according to my wife's Phd advisor who is a well regarded biologist and would not let his wife help us with his Ghia fuel lines). So exposure to toxins is far worse for future mothers than it is for future fathers. If this is correct and you are a guy trying to get get your girl pregnant, you should probably take a vacation from the toxins for a little while before starting the baby.
11-17-2011, 02:20 PM
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As a professional welder, fabricator, and certified welding inspector, I worked for over 40 years, with no regard to the hazards of metal fume disease, plus I smoked non-filters under my hood while I was welding. Back when I started, all that smoke in the shop was considered: "the smell of money!" I was told to get used to it, and when you smell it you're making the big bucks!
Today I teach at the community collage, and one of the first things I show my students is my $2000.00 Jackson supplied air welding hood.
Quit smoking 11 years ago, and just took a lung function test 2 weeks ago. Doc said my lungs are normal, like I never smoked or welded. I was lucky! Most welders die in their 50's, can't see,hear. or breathe.
Anyhow I forgot to mention that Royal Brown makes an acid free wheel cleaner that works on aluminum, and it won't etch the metal, or damage the paint on a cars finish. Fantastic stuff, washes off, and it's at Target, so you don't have to mail order it anymore.
Today I teach at the community collage, and one of the first things I show my students is my $2000.00 Jackson supplied air welding hood.
Quit smoking 11 years ago, and just took a lung function test 2 weeks ago. Doc said my lungs are normal, like I never smoked or welded. I was lucky! Most welders die in their 50's, can't see,hear. or breathe.
Anyhow I forgot to mention that Royal Brown makes an acid free wheel cleaner that works on aluminum, and it won't etch the metal, or damage the paint on a cars finish. Fantastic stuff, washes off, and it's at Target, so you don't have to mail order it anymore.
11-17-2011, 02:21 PM
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As a professional welder, fabricator, and certified welding inspector, I worked for over 40 years, with no regard to the hazards of metal fume disease, plus I smoked non-filters under my hood while I was welding. Back when I started, all that smoke in the shop was considered: "the smell of money!" I was told to get used to it, and when you smell it you're making the big bucks!
Today I teach at the community collage, and one of the first things I show my students is my $2000.00 Jackson supplied air welding hood.
Quit smoking 11 years ago, and just took a lung function test 2 weeks ago. Doc said my lungs are normal, like I never smoked or welded. I was lucky! Most welders die in their 50's, can't see,hear. or breathe.
Anyhow I forgot to mention that Royal Brown makes an acid free wheel cleaner that works on aluminum, and it won't etch the metal, or damage the paint on a cars finish. Fantastic stuff, washes off, and it's at Target, so you don't have to mail order it anymore.
Today I teach at the community collage, and one of the first things I show my students is my $2000.00 Jackson supplied air welding hood.
Quit smoking 11 years ago, and just took a lung function test 2 weeks ago. Doc said my lungs are normal, like I never smoked or welded. I was lucky! Most welders die in their 50's, can't see,hear. or breathe.
Anyhow I forgot to mention that Royal Brown makes an acid free wheel cleaner that works on aluminum, and it won't etch the metal, or damage the paint on a cars finish. Fantastic stuff, washes off, and it's at Target, so you don't have to mail order it anymore.
11-17-2011, 03:52 PM
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11-18-2011, 06:01 AM
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Finally for removing rust Muriatic acid is super. Just that the rust will come back quickly if the part is not treated. Full strength it is aggressive - use it outside. Glove, glasses and use a respirator - also long sleeves are in order. It works fast. You should de-grease the parts before immersion. Use a plastic bucket - never add acid to water when diluting - instead add water to the acid. Muriatic acid is used in pools and can be bought at Home Depot.
You always add acid to water.
This statement is found on the back of muriatic acid bottles.
You have it wrong way round in your statement above. Doing it as you suggest will cause the acid to potentially splatter about when it hits the water.
Cheers,
11-18-2011, 07:04 AM
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Thanks Constantine - I read that line three times and it still looked wrong. My dyslexia is always getting me tripped up. It is amazing how quickly it cleans up rusted parts though.
11-19-2011, 10:41 AM
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Good thread. Good posts.
