heinrich

Take a look. This thing will track 4 lanes of traffic. Speed, position, close-up of license plate are all recorded. http://peakgainsystems.com/en/cordon.html

SeanR

We are in such a damned nanny state.

risaac928

Thats because people vote for a false sense of security...and in turn give up more of your freedom....

Speedtoys

What freedom was lost here?

As important as freedom is, its important not to wrap everything within it when it doesnt apply.

heinrich

I'm a big proponent of freedom, and I strongly reject all unnecessary infringements on it. I don't think this particularly has much to do with freedom. One could argue that having one's every move logged by character recognising systems as one drives, is an automatic tracking system, and therefore infringes on one's ability to freely move around untracked by authorities, and especially commercial 3rd parties. While this is probably true, nothing is new there. When you slap a license plate onto your car, you are trackable. Not tracked, just trackable. So ... not a strong argument either way.

BACK ON-TOPIC (I do not want this to go to OT)
Guys, look out, speed cameras are coming, they're getting more sophisticated, and they will bite

To be honest, having travelled across the US a bit, I become less of a proponent of allowing people to drive fast. People drive like maniacs in many places, and they have many collisions. I, for one, am becoming less and less accepting of this as I drive and constantly have to adjust my driving for people in inferior cars, driving WAY beyond the limits of the car.

ROG100

Nothing a burning tyre, chain saw, shotgun or cutting disc wont take care of. Drivers in the UK and mainland Europe have been dealing with this for years.

Speedtoys

Great post.

America CANT HAVE high speed limits, because America cant be bothered to train people how to *&@#'ing drive safely at ANY speed.

Speedtoys

Me too, every trip..and I have no problems with it.

In fact, ive found that congestion management with average speed zones that shift have improved my commute to London on my M3/M25 daily commute greatly.

Im back over there the 10-21st this month..and find highway driving not nearly as stressful as I do in the US.

..little things like undertaking is taken seriously...and you ARE punished for holding up the fast lane.

ROG100

The general standard of driving here in the USA is pretty poor compared to Europe.
Here in the US our roads are better, wider and longer, with better lane discipline we should be able to drive faster and safer.

At least here in TX they are raising limits on the open freeways.

I do not have an issue with checking speeds particulary in the city limits but once you are away from any build up area why should we be restricted to 70 on a beutifull long wide open road.

heinrich

Agreed

Speedtoys

My theory..is that in the US the lowest common denominator is what limits are set for.

Not the average, or the highest.

Its a result of the absolute zero driver training the US requires.



FWIW..the level of training a driver gets in the US, is similar to the training required to ONLY taxi, take off, fly a general pattern, studder on the radio, then land 3x in a row in about 9hrs of flight training.

Thats called a solo flight by some instructors...with the bare absolute minimums.

Ive seen SOME instructors do the RADIO work for a student doing a solo..they push em out so fast.


Thats US drivers ed.



Thankfully, most pilots end up with about 65-70hrs of in the air training (and maybe 40 on the ground) before they get a license to wander around on their own.

Driving should be at least that hard to pass, its harder, and then we can talk about high speed open highways where the lowest common denominator on the road not only knows WHAT a mirror is, actually uses it on an open highway before changing lanes for no reason in front of you at a closure rate of 30-50mph.

You cant out-think stupid.

blown 87

I have followed you Roger, and from what I have seen you are not bothered by these to much.

dcrasta

I would say

America Cant have High speed limits because Americans all believe rules, laws, and common courtesy apply to everyone but them. Examples.

1-driving while on the Cell Phone : Proven that driving distracted is a bad thing, but people still do it (I almost was ran off the road this morning in my 928 because a dumb woman was running her mouth and all over the road).

2-Idiots with children in cars that they cannot drive : How many teenagers are given or allowed to drive very fast cars that demand skill and respect, but will show off (immature).

3-(and finally one of my pet peeves) - Dumb-a$$oles that think its 'their right' to drive @ or below the speed limit in the left lane. Or the famous rolling road block where 2-3 people want to drive in a side-by-side parade, holding up everyone else.

Basically we are a nation of selfish people that does not like authority or anyone telling us our way is wrong. So bring on the speed cameras, and bring on the 'call interrupters' because some people cannot do the right thing on their own [end /rant]

Lizard928

I think that they need to ditch the speed cameras.
The reason is that these will only be placed on freeways where the limits are already too low.

Instead monitor for traffic pacing each other, or have police patrol the highway for people who sit driving side by side for MILES. If you arent actively passing someone, get out of the fast lane.

blown 87

Wonder what a Barrett M82 would do to that box?