1982 928 Weissach
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Mark is right. If you want to find a nice Wessach cheaper than 10K, you may be able to, but you might have to wait a long time. Likewise, if the seller wants to get 12K, it might be possible, but he might have to wait a long time. If he offered it for 5K, he could probably sell it today. If you wanted to pay 20K you could probably get a nicer one today.
As far as getting out the money you put in...forget about that right now. 928 are an expense, not an investment. But you might loose less than if you bought a new Mustang and sold it 5 years later.
As far as getting out the money you put in...forget about that right now. 928 are an expense, not an investment. But you might loose less than if you bought a new Mustang and sold it 5 years later.
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Offer Dennis (Sueden) the $12.5K, see what he says. I sure would be interested in his answer.
EDIT: I think this is my favorite sounding 928 in the world.
EDIT: I think this is my favorite sounding 928 in the world.
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6K up to 9K /2 or $7,500. I would start a bit lower and pay attention to your wallet as the price went up.
There are going to be things that you wanna work on and make the car yours as you have already stated.
Good luck with the purchase!
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There's another 204 of them in the US somewhere. $12.5K is strong money in this economey--even $10K in my mind. Personally, I'd offer $7.5-$8K or walk away. There's more desirable cars. If it's just a unique 928 you want, buy a GT!
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This car specifically looks kind of messed with, especially if the interior has been dyed.
What is it about this car you find appealing?
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It is a crying shame how some in the 928 community are always dissing the 928. I see exceptional value and worth in these beautiful cars and know that the value of the special ones will increase significantly. We have already seen GTS's changes hands for circa $120k and really good early cars circa $50k. Prices for nice cars are rising. Dogs will always be dogs unless someone breaths life back into them. In the case of the 928 there are a lot of dogs out there which will never return. This makes the cars that are available and in reasonable condition very desireable.
Both the Weissach and the Jubilee are special cars to me and the other owners who happen to like them. They will never be worth the value of a GTS but never the less will command a higher value than a stock 82 car.
There are a lot less of the circa 220 Weissachs left as many have been neglected beyond repair and or painted/changed from the original design. Far fewer Jubilees exist from the original 140. This makes them a very special car.
I drove my first Weissach from Boston to TX and it was one of the best drives ever. I don't care if it is slow on the 0 to 60 time compared to modern cars. Driving at 130mph hour after hour on some great freeways the way the car was designed was the biggest rush for me.
One day I will get to drive a GTS at 170 on the Autobahn - I love these cars.
Both the Weissach and the Jubilee are special cars to me and the other owners who happen to like them. They will never be worth the value of a GTS but never the less will command a higher value than a stock 82 car.
There are a lot less of the circa 220 Weissachs left as many have been neglected beyond repair and or painted/changed from the original design. Far fewer Jubilees exist from the original 140. This makes them a very special car.
I drove my first Weissach from Boston to TX and it was one of the best drives ever. I don't care if it is slow on the 0 to 60 time compared to modern cars. Driving at 130mph hour after hour on some great freeways the way the car was designed was the biggest rush for me.
One day I will get to drive a GTS at 170 on the Autobahn - I love these cars.
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Check the damage history. It looks to me, from the pictures, like the rear wheel openings are not the original shape, which I think means that the car has been rear ended and poorly repaired. If so, check that the frame aft of the rear crossmember mounting points is not bent.
Another possibility is that the rear wheel opening have suffered the billy club/broom handle fender rolling flaring technique, and not very carefully. Actually I suspect the latter rather than the rear end collision, because of the wider style wheels/tires.
If the rear wing is going to be removed it is going to involve body work and lpaint on the hatch.
Therefore, off of the seller's expectation of $12,500 I would first deduct the first $2.500 simply as unrealistic expectation, and then deduct about $1,500 for the missing luggage, $1,000 for the body and paint, and about $2,000 for the corruption of the rear wheel arches. But that is just me. The seller is wanting a collector type price for a car that has been severly changed from original or collector status.
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Another possibility is that the rear wheel opening have suffered the billy club/broom handle fender rolling flaring technique, and not very carefully. Actually I suspect the latter rather than the rear end collision, because of the wider style wheels/tires.
If the rear wing is going to be removed it is going to involve body work and lpaint on the hatch.
Therefore, off of the seller's expectation of $12,500 I would first deduct the first $2.500 simply as unrealistic expectation, and then deduct about $1,500 for the missing luggage, $1,000 for the body and paint, and about $2,000 for the corruption of the rear wheel arches. But that is just me. The seller is wanting a collector type price for a car that has been severly changed from original or collector status.
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To me its a nice looking 82 automatic, ie of no interest whatsoever. I don't believe in buying a 928 for what it might be worth someday, and have serious doubts the Weissach will ever be much in demand compared to the supply. Its just a color scheme, on a otherwise unexciting mechanically unexciting model year.
Make no mistake, eventauly, the 928 will appreciate. God only knows when. But when it does, like the 356 and the 911, these special editions will be worth a premium. Collectors will enjoy them, and you'll still have fun with what you drive, life will go on.
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If you don't really care if it is a Weissach, then I would look for another 928, rather than pay premium for something you don't really care about (and whose authenticity on this one is a bit of a question mark).
There are many beautiful 928's out there, several in gold/butterscotch colors. I would decide on your budget, then figure out if you have any primary criteria.
Most important, however, as has been said often, is to find a 928 in excellent, authentic (e.g., no hidden re-paint) condition, with DOCUMENTED work done and history. This being a Porsche mechanic as owner, may not have documented their work (and could easily fabricate, though I would hope not). To me that paint looks like a re-spray, and there is no Weissach badge on the dash. The holes in the hatch from the added wing have ruined the authenticity of the hatch. Depending on how it is mounted, it may tear off the paint between the four added mounting holes as well.
Some criteria that MAY be important:
1. Automatic (plentiful) vs. 5-speed (more rare)
2. Exterior Color - though, I was surprised how a color I originally did not even care for (Grand Prix White), grew on me - ORIGINAL Porsche paint is a work of art, and wears incredibly well, vs. most re-paints).
3. Interior Color - difficult to change completely, IMO, so you are stuck with it.
I found that any other criteria doesn't really matter, and even the above three come AFTER the condition of the car you find.
P.S. I do love Weissachs (except their wheels!), but not because of what they might be worth one day.
There are many beautiful 928's out there, several in gold/butterscotch colors. I would decide on your budget, then figure out if you have any primary criteria.
Most important, however, as has been said often, is to find a 928 in excellent, authentic (e.g., no hidden re-paint) condition, with DOCUMENTED work done and history. This being a Porsche mechanic as owner, may not have documented their work (and could easily fabricate, though I would hope not). To me that paint looks like a re-spray, and there is no Weissach badge on the dash. The holes in the hatch from the added wing have ruined the authenticity of the hatch. Depending on how it is mounted, it may tear off the paint between the four added mounting holes as well.
Some criteria that MAY be important:
1. Automatic (plentiful) vs. 5-speed (more rare)
2. Exterior Color - though, I was surprised how a color I originally did not even care for (Grand Prix White), grew on me - ORIGINAL Porsche paint is a work of art, and wears incredibly well, vs. most re-paints).
3. Interior Color - difficult to change completely, IMO, so you are stuck with it.
I found that any other criteria doesn't really matter, and even the above three come AFTER the condition of the car you find.
P.S. I do love Weissachs (except their wheels!), but not because of what they might be worth one day.
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P.S. If you are still pursuing this car, a picture of the engine compartment will tell a lot as well.
P.S.S. Again, if the Weissach thing does not matter to you, I would not factor it into the cost. Look at it as an 1982 Automatic 928 in apparently good condition and apparently low mileage. Let those of us that care about the Weissach's worry about it's authenticity, and pay accordingly if it proves to be true.
P.S.S. Again, if the Weissach thing does not matter to you, I would not factor it into the cost. Look at it as an 1982 Automatic 928 in apparently good condition and apparently low mileage. Let those of us that care about the Weissach's worry about it's authenticity, and pay accordingly if it proves to be true.
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First I would like to thank you guys for the comments. Jerry I am not sure about the wheel well thing the body looked really straight. Although Carlos comment about the repaint makes me wonder. When I looked under the car there was a good 12" of gold over spray on the undercarriage. The owner said this was common from the factory? The luggage is included although I think I read there is supposed to be 3 pieces and there is only 2. Also there is a badge in the center of the dash, it is not visible in the photos. I don't know why but I didn't really pay attention to it so I don't know what it says.
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A Weissach interior? For ref. Not my car or my picture.
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