AT removal/repair ideas....It's out.
10-14-2011, 10:36 PM
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10-15-2011, 12:22 AM
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OK, anyone who says you can get the torque converter out with the tranny in the car is lying. I want to see hard evidence.
You know I'm game for whatever looks like a decent shortcut. I've done rear main seals without pulling the engine or TT. They said it couldn't be done, but I did and that seal is still bone dry 7 years later. I've replaced torque tubes trans in the car without cutting the bellhousing. That's easy. I've installed the front shims on pre-86 TT shaft in the car. Greg Brown said it couldn't be done.
I tried to get the TC out earlier this year with the tranny just slid back as far as it would go and tilted down far enough so the TT front would clear the flywheel and could be removed. I could get the TC cover off and replace the bearings, but the TC would not clear the hump. I thought I just needed a bit more room, so today I dropped the rear crossmember and tranny down about a foot and moved it back a bit too. There still is not enough clearance. The TC must come foward about 6" to get out. I'll get it out, but it's not going to be easy.
As Borland said, I might as well have done it the normal way. For various reasons, I couldn't, AND I was assured what I was trying could be done. I call BS!
You know I'm game for whatever looks like a decent shortcut. I've done rear main seals without pulling the engine or TT. They said it couldn't be done, but I did and that seal is still bone dry 7 years later. I've replaced torque tubes trans in the car without cutting the bellhousing. That's easy. I've installed the front shims on pre-86 TT shaft in the car. Greg Brown said it couldn't be done.
I tried to get the TC out earlier this year with the tranny just slid back as far as it would go and tilted down far enough so the TT front would clear the flywheel and could be removed. I could get the TC cover off and replace the bearings, but the TC would not clear the hump. I thought I just needed a bit more room, so today I dropped the rear crossmember and tranny down about a foot and moved it back a bit too. There still is not enough clearance. The TC must come foward about 6" to get out. I'll get it out, but it's not going to be easy.
As Borland said, I might as well have done it the normal way. For various reasons, I couldn't, AND I was assured what I was trying could be done. I call BS!
10-15-2011, 12:29 AM
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OK, anyone who says you can get the torque converter out with the tranny in the car is lying. I want to see hard evidence.
You know I'm game for whatever looks like a decent shortcut. I've done rear main seals without pulling the engine or TT. They said it couldn't be done, but I did and that seal is still bone dry 7 years later. I've replaced torque tubes trans in the car without cutting the bellhousing. That's easy. I've installed the front shims on pre-86 TT shaft in the car. Greg Brown said it couldn't be done.
I tried to get the TC out earlier this year with the tranny just slid back as far as it would go and tilted down far enough so the TT front would clear the flywheel and could be removed. I could get the TC cover off and replace the bearings, but the TC would not clear the hump. I thought I just needed a bit more room, so today I dropped the rear crossmember and tranny down about a foot and moved it back a bit too. There still is not enough clearance. The TC must come foward about 6" to get out. I'll get it out, but it's not going to be easy.
As Borland said, I might as well have done it the normal way. For various reasons, I couldn't, AND I was assured what I was trying could be done. I call BS!
You know I'm game for whatever looks like a decent shortcut. I've done rear main seals without pulling the engine or TT. They said it couldn't be done, but I did and that seal is still bone dry 7 years later. I've replaced torque tubes trans in the car without cutting the bellhousing. That's easy. I've installed the front shims on pre-86 TT shaft in the car. Greg Brown said it couldn't be done.
I tried to get the TC out earlier this year with the tranny just slid back as far as it would go and tilted down far enough so the TT front would clear the flywheel and could be removed. I could get the TC cover off and replace the bearings, but the TC would not clear the hump. I thought I just needed a bit more room, so today I dropped the rear crossmember and tranny down about a foot and moved it back a bit too. There still is not enough clearance. The TC must come foward about 6" to get out. I'll get it out, but it's not going to be easy.
As Borland said, I might as well have done it the normal way. For various reasons, I couldn't, AND I was assured what I was trying could be done. I call BS!
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10-15-2011, 12:35 AM
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I way beyond Early Times already.
This just pisses me off. I still have to figure out how to get the damn thing out. Getting it back in w/o mooching the seal won't be easy either. There simply is not a straight shot at it using this method.
Anybody want to suggest how I can jack up the rear end of the car further with the jackpoints occupied by jackstands and the rear crossmember detached from the body?
This just pisses me off. I still have to figure out how to get the damn thing out. Getting it back in w/o mooching the seal won't be easy either. There simply is not a straight shot at it using this method.
Anybody want to suggest how I can jack up the rear end of the car further with the jackpoints occupied by jackstands and the rear crossmember detached from the body?
10-15-2011, 12:40 AM
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While on the topic of pulling the TC..
WHAT is involved with changing your stall speed in it?
Whats this cost?
Is it really a PITA to drive that way?
And 2nd question...
How much would a shift to the lower ratio LSD cost if you had the tranny out?
WHAT is involved with changing your stall speed in it?
Whats this cost?
Is it really a PITA to drive that way?
And 2nd question...
How much would a shift to the lower ratio LSD cost if you had the tranny out?
10-15-2011, 01:01 AM
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OK, board on frame beside jackpoint to spread load, jack it up higher for more clearance.
If my sliding jack that I used to lower the crossmember and tranny had 6" or so more travel I could have gotten the tranny lower or the car higher and probably would not be complaining so much. I had to put spacer boards on the sliding jack to reach the crossmember.
Jeff, you would have the torque converter altered. Others have done it. The early autos seem to have a high stall speed. They feel a bit odd at first, but it puts you a bit more in the torque sweetspot off the line.
For a gear ratio change you would need a different ring and pinion set. The LSD itself would not need to be changed. Might as well buy a different tranny. I think paired ring and pinion sets are hard to come by except in a tranny, but you could ask 928 Intl.
If my sliding jack that I used to lower the crossmember and tranny had 6" or so more travel I could have gotten the tranny lower or the car higher and probably would not be complaining so much. I had to put spacer boards on the sliding jack to reach the crossmember.
Jeff, you would have the torque converter altered. Others have done it. The early autos seem to have a high stall speed. They feel a bit odd at first, but it puts you a bit more in the torque sweetspot off the line.
For a gear ratio change you would need a different ring and pinion set. The LSD itself would not need to be changed. Might as well buy a different tranny. I think paired ring and pinion sets are hard to come by except in a tranny, but you could ask 928 Intl.
10-15-2011, 01:26 AM
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10-15-2011, 02:17 AM
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10-15-2011, 03:40 AM
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Gear box needs to be tilted up before you can take the oil pump assembly out. Standing straight up would be best. Do not tilt it forward when the pump is out, its not good for the gear assembly to move forward when there is no oil pump to hold it. Also, put something soft under the oil pan to provide cushion, they can dent.
10-15-2011, 05:07 AM
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Well, then that's not happening. Doing this on a 4-post lift, at least the way I did it, was a big mistake. I suppose I could get a med/high lift (24") tranny jack and lower the lift down enough to use the tranny jack to raise the tranny up off the crossmember and fully out of the car. My original plan was to not remove the tranny based on the comments I had read/heard that you can service the TC seal with the tranny in the car. WRONG!
10-15-2011, 05:26 AM
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I can bring my 1500lb capaciy motorcycle jack over on Sunday If you wanna give it a try. It makes for a great tranny jack.
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10-15-2011, 05:56 AM
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Charley:
THANKS for the offer. I'm going to be out on Sunday. George is bringing over his tranny jack tomorrow afternoon. I hope that does the trick. If not, I may call on your help next week.
THANKS for the offer. I'm going to be out on Sunday. George is bringing over his tranny jack tomorrow afternoon. I hope that does the trick. If not, I may call on your help next week.