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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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I'll give it up when a$$holes like you stop blinding me with their illegal lights. How many people have you pi$$ed off before the attantion that you love so much got better of you? Putting stronger bulbs in a RHD lens light is moronic at best and turning them down and away does nothing to your ability to see the raod. I love my cave!
Please don't do this, you are such a bunch of good guys,please do not spoil it,Ray
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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Give it up man and grow some.

I turned then down, way down and cranked the left one way in.

Really, you should crawl out of your cave.
Brad - previous pissing matches aside... you really should just get LHD lenses - nothing else you can do ever makes this into good peformance for you or others...

Given the uptilt on the left - you can't aim them low enough or right enough to avoid this being distracting to others without completely compromising your own visibility - its just impossible...

Particularly given this - https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...eferrerid=6055

Maybe you can find a ~straight swap with someone with the opposite problem. UK, Australia, NZ etc importing a LHD ROW car.

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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
H4s are illegal in NA, the only legal solution is to replace them with a pair of H5s. H5s are much easier to find here than H4 anyways.
I don't think H4s are illegal per se anymore. The bulbs are readily available at retail in the US. I'm sure it's illegal to change from H5s to H4s (or aftermarket HIDs, for that matter), so H4s are illegal on 928s in NA, but there appears to be zero enforcement, at least in California.

It's odd that Canada allows you to import a Japanese spec car without changing the headlights to conform to Canadian requirements. That would seem to be an obvious problem.

To change from H4s to H5s (and vice versa) requires the entire lamp assembly and mounting hardware except the cover and aluminum yoke, although they do not fit exactly due to different length lower mount stems unless you change those out. Below is H4, then H5.



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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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Bill I had no issues swapping from H5 -> H4 with the same yokes - I did of course swap the static peg locator Vs motorized adjuster too.. did you observe other differences - or just that?

Re the H4 vs H5 question - I'm not particularly concerned about the exact USA DOT regulatory requirements - since they have proven themselves to be quite stupid beyond logical explaination in this matter...

Ecode lamps now seems acceptable to them - I guess they finally pulled their head out of the sand and decided the whole of the rest of the world might have a point...

But the purely functional aspects between LHD & RHD specs are IMO indisputable and quite blatant - its just wrong to drive with headlamps that are effectively actually optimized to target oncoming motorists retinas however you aim them.

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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Bill I had no issues swapping from H5 -> H4 with the same yokes - I did of course swap the static peg locator Vs motorized adjuster too.. did you observe other differences - or just that?

Re the H4 vs H5 question - I'm not particularly concerned about the exact USA DOT regulatory requirements - since they have proven themselves to be quite stupid beyond logical explaination in this matter...

Ecode lamps now seems acceptable to them - I guess they finally pulled their head out of the sand and decided the whole of the rest of the world might have a point...

But the purely functional aspects between LHD & RHD specs are IMO indisputable and quite blatant - its just wrong to drive with headlamps that are effectively actually optimized to target oncoming motorists retinas however you aim them.

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Right, why Canada allows importing of Japanese spec cars without changing the lamps from at least R to LHD, if not to H5, is a mystery.

The only issue I had converting from H5 to H4 was that lower stem. I did not change out the motor and stem or the large yoke. I have them and should probably do it. I did everything from the exterior. To change these parts, you need to get into the wheel wells under the headlamp. I've been in there several times since, but forgot to do it.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
I don't think H4s are illegal per se anymore. The bulbs are readily available at retail in the US. I'm sure it's illegal to change from H5s to H4s (or aftermarket HIDs, for that matter), so H4s are illegal on 928s in NA, but there appears to be zero enforcement, at least in California.

It's odd that Canada allows you to import a Japanese spec car without changing the headlights to conform to Canadian requirements. That would seem to be an obvious problem.
You might be right about the H4 bulbs but for the lenses, I'm not sosure. As far as I know, Euro spec lenses are not legally allowed here. Ofcourse no one enforces them so they are popular as an upgrade. Even I have a set of Bosch LHD 7" lenses on mine. But unlike a RHD H4, it doesn't bling the oncoming traffic. As for the japaneese spec S4s, I don'd think the federalization inspectors know or give two $hits about lenses or they are maybe they are aware of how dangerous the RHD lens is in a LHD country. Or maybe the federalization was done in a wishy washy way, so things like changing the lenses was never done. Never the less, they have no business being there, period.

Another Japaneese spec S4 I've worked on last year also had RHD H4 lenses. First time I took it out at night, it was extremly obvious, especially on high beams, that majority of the left lens' light shoots directly into the oncoming lane.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Right, why Canada allows importing of Japanese spec cars without changing the lamps from at least R to LHD, if not to H5, is a mystery..
I just thought of something and maybe thats' the reason. Once a vehicle reaches 15yo, it can be imported from anywhere in the world into Canada and DOESN'T have to be federalized. Therefore they come in the way they left their original country and hit the road with nothing more than a basic safety inspection and an emission test (if required). Since the safety inspection is done by a regualr mechanic, they don't know or need to know if the car has a RHD or a LHD lense in it. All they check for is that the lights work. So this is probalby how all teh Japaneese spec cars have theie original headlights. But as I said in my previous post, as soon as you drive one at night, you'll know something is really wrong.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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just to clear the air.
I dont drive my car as a DD and so I do not drive it at night.
If I do run to the store at night (in the city) i just use the running lamps. Its only 3 blocks.

I also hate those MORONS with the really bright blue lights and I have made sure that the briter ones I installed are not near as bright as those HID Blue Buggers that blind everyone.

I disagree that turning in the left lamp will not help as I have spent considerable time
in my crescent at night making sure that the lights do not blind traffic which I have verified by driving toward my car.
So you see I am not a monster that dose not care about others.
Tim the OP and I have talked and he has a lead on some LHD lamps through 5 different outlets. Right now the cheapest is $350/lamp

I always appreciate all of your guys help, please do not think that I do not, but in the end, everyone has the right to their own mods no matter what the purest think, headlamps,wheels, stroker, or whatever.

Sorry if I was blunt but part of the problem with the world these days is everyone conforms and excepts.
I will speak out but i should have been more tactful.

Bad Brad
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"...but in the end, everyone has the right to their own mods no matter what the purest think..."


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