Matte Black Car Wrap
06-20-2011, 06:21 PM
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Matte Black Car Wrap
I looked around the forum and didn't see anyone who had done this yet. I need to get a paint job on one of my 928's, but instead of going for a respray I was thinking about getting a Matte Black Car Wrap instead. Anyone have any experience doing this yet? I can buy the kit or have it done someplace. I think it would look amazing.
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06-20-2011, 07:18 PM
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I was at XPEL last week in San Antonio. They have a carbon fiber wrap that I hear is pretty awesome. XPEL is a sponsor. Check the top right corner of this page for their corp address and phone. Very professional team and have installers throughout the country. I have XPEL on the hood of my 911 and I'm very pleased with the results. Surely they have an installer in your area.
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06-20-2011, 08:25 PM
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Drifting
If I had not had to spend all my mad money on fixing my rich running issue this past week, I was ordering Matte Black wrap from Hexis and doing it this weekend. Here is some info:
Thank you for contacting Hexis! We do have a black matte cast vinyl for
wraps, with the air-release adhesive similar to Oracal 970RA. Not sure how
many yards you need exactly, but here is the pricing for my rolls:
54"x1yd - $33.25
54"x11yds - $304.80
54"x33yds - $762.00
www.ilovehx.com
http://catalogues.hexisgroup.com/US/
I loosely measured my car's panels and added about 20% and it will be about $400, free shipping, for enough material to do my car and wheels and have extra. I tried to make sure that there is no panel too big for 1 piece and I think my measurements and calculations are pretty accurate.
Thank you for contacting Hexis! We do have a black matte cast vinyl for
wraps, with the air-release adhesive similar to Oracal 970RA. Not sure how
many yards you need exactly, but here is the pricing for my rolls:
54"x1yd - $33.25
54"x11yds - $304.80
54"x33yds - $762.00
www.ilovehx.com
http://catalogues.hexisgroup.com/US/
I loosely measured my car's panels and added about 20% and it will be about $400, free shipping, for enough material to do my car and wheels and have extra. I tried to make sure that there is no panel too big for 1 piece and I think my measurements and calculations are pretty accurate.
06-20-2011, 08:25 PM
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Hi 
For what its worth it depends on how bad or good the paint is...
I looked into this a while ago and wanted a wrap as my paint was not good...some bubbles and corrosion in various places...not awful but not great...
What they said was... well we will have to spray the whole car first as the wrap wont go over bad paint...which defeated the object somewhat...
So if you are doing it because of bad paint dont bother...if your paintwork is good then yes they will do it...
All the best Brett
Ps I REALLY REALLY do not think this is a do it yourself job either, after talking to them and others...
For what its worth it depends on how bad or good the paint is...
I looked into this a while ago and wanted a wrap as my paint was not good...some bubbles and corrosion in various places...not awful but not great...
What they said was... well we will have to spray the whole car first as the wrap wont go over bad paint...which defeated the object somewhat...
So if you are doing it because of bad paint dont bother...if your paintwork is good then yes they will do it...
All the best Brett
Ps I REALLY REALLY do not think this is a do it yourself job either, after talking to them and others...
06-20-2011, 09:34 PM
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Burning Brakes
I'm doing this at some point to several cars. I have the materials just not the time right now. I plan on prepping the surface with some Eastwood products making a smooth surface. ou will also want to detail the heck out of the rest of the car before wrapping.
06-20-2011, 11:19 PM
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Been seeing lots of wraps on the freeways on all sorts of things like Scion X-B in "carbon fiber" Honda hoods and roofs. Given that most people have a hard time wrapping a Christmas Gift so it looks nice.......Was thinking about how do you cover a door with a solid sheet when you have to get it over the mirrors under the mirror gaskets ???
06-20-2011, 11:54 PM
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Burning Brakes
You can remove the mirrors. Most wraps have memory and can be heated and stretched to a certain point around curves etc. I bought a training DVD from an expert.
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06-21-2011, 03:55 AM
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Where did you get the DVD from, if you don't mind sharing? I have several cars that need paint, but it is all loosing propostions:
-Pay somebody $6K to make your $4K car look like a $8K car for a few years
-Pay somebody $3K and have them sit on your car for 2 years while you scream and rant and are not satisified with the results in the end.
-Pay somebody $1 to $2K and have the car worth less and look worse than when you started.
-Shoot your self and your family into a whole cloud of toxic fumes. And have bugs in the paint.
And will all of these routes your interior and immaculate motor will have primer dust and overspray forever.
Nothing fancy. I have two red cars,a white car and a cream car. I just want them to look better without a huge hassle, big expense, and total mess. If this could be done in a long weekend of hard work it would be great, but I sense that there are a bunch of tricks and I don't want to wade into something I totally cannot manage.
-Pay somebody $6K to make your $4K car look like a $8K car for a few years
-Pay somebody $3K and have them sit on your car for 2 years while you scream and rant and are not satisified with the results in the end.
-Pay somebody $1 to $2K and have the car worth less and look worse than when you started.
-Shoot your self and your family into a whole cloud of toxic fumes. And have bugs in the paint.
And will all of these routes your interior and immaculate motor will have primer dust and overspray forever.
Nothing fancy. I have two red cars,a white car and a cream car. I just want them to look better without a huge hassle, big expense, and total mess. If this could be done in a long weekend of hard work it would be great, but I sense that there are a bunch of tricks and I don't want to wade into something I totally cannot manage.
06-21-2011, 09:14 AM
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Where did you get the DVD from, if you don't mind sharing? I have several cars that need paint, but it is all loosing propostions:
-Pay somebody $6K to make your $4K car look like a $8K car for a few years
-Pay somebody $3K and have them sit on your car for 2 years while you scream and rant and are not satisified with the results in the end.
-Pay somebody $1 to $2K and have the car worth less and look worse than when you started.
-Shoot your self and your family into a whole cloud of toxic fumes. And have bugs in the paint.
And will all of these routes your interior and immaculate motor will have primer dust and overspray forever.
Nothing fancy. I have two red cars,a white car and a cream car. I just want them to look better without a huge hassle, big expense, and total mess. If this could be done in a long weekend of hard work it would be great, but I sense that there are a bunch of tricks and I don't want to wade into something I totally cannot manage.
-Pay somebody $6K to make your $4K car look like a $8K car for a few years
-Pay somebody $3K and have them sit on your car for 2 years while you scream and rant and are not satisified with the results in the end.
-Pay somebody $1 to $2K and have the car worth less and look worse than when you started.
-Shoot your self and your family into a whole cloud of toxic fumes. And have bugs in the paint.
And will all of these routes your interior and immaculate motor will have primer dust and overspray forever.
Nothing fancy. I have two red cars,a white car and a cream car. I just want them to look better without a huge hassle, big expense, and total mess. If this could be done in a long weekend of hard work it would be great, but I sense that there are a bunch of tricks and I don't want to wade into something I totally cannot manage.
I find paint work issues to be incredibly undesirable to deal with, mainly because of the reasons you stated! Many times, the cost you pay out of your pocket for the work is not just for the quality of work, but also for the timeliness and level of service/respectability you receive from the paint shop.
06-21-2011, 09:55 AM
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Karl,
Have you considered buffing your paint? My 79 911 was stage 1 paint-no clear coat. I called it "stop sign" red or dead red. I contacted Griot's Garage (goggle them) and bought a buffer, Polish 1,2,& 3 and a 3 pack of Orange pads. Its now a Concours winning car. Much cheaper than a re-sprayer and very easy to use.
Have you considered buffing your paint? My 79 911 was stage 1 paint-no clear coat. I called it "stop sign" red or dead red. I contacted Griot's Garage (goggle them) and bought a buffer, Polish 1,2,& 3 and a 3 pack of Orange pads. Its now a Concours winning car. Much cheaper than a re-sprayer and very easy to use.
06-21-2011, 10:19 AM
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Where did you get the DVD from, if you don't mind sharing? I have several cars that need paint, but it is all loosing propostions:
-Pay somebody $6K to make your $4K car look like a $8K car for a few years
-Pay somebody $3K and have them sit on your car for 2 years while you scream and rant and are not satisified with the results in the end.
-Pay somebody $1 to $2K and have the car worth less and look worse than when you started.
-Shoot your self and your family into a whole cloud of toxic fumes. And have bugs in the paint.
And will all of these routes your interior and immaculate motor will have primer dust and overspray forever.
Nothing fancy. I have two red cars,a white car and a cream car. I just want them to look better without a huge hassle, big expense, and total mess. If this could be done in a long weekend of hard work it would be great, but I sense that there are a bunch of tricks and I don't want to wade into something I totally cannot manage.
-Pay somebody $6K to make your $4K car look like a $8K car for a few years
-Pay somebody $3K and have them sit on your car for 2 years while you scream and rant and are not satisified with the results in the end.
-Pay somebody $1 to $2K and have the car worth less and look worse than when you started.
-Shoot your self and your family into a whole cloud of toxic fumes. And have bugs in the paint.
And will all of these routes your interior and immaculate motor will have primer dust and overspray forever.
Nothing fancy. I have two red cars,a white car and a cream car. I just want them to look better without a huge hassle, big expense, and total mess. If this could be done in a long weekend of hard work it would be great, but I sense that there are a bunch of tricks and I don't want to wade into something I totally cannot manage.
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06-21-2011, 11:45 AM
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Burning Brakes
Its easier to do the matt wrap than the carbon fiber wrap. With the Carbon you can distort the pattern if you stretch too much. WIth the Matt wrap you dont have to worry about that. And to touch on somethign Paul said in another thread is that you will have to take the car apart to get it right.
06-21-2011, 02:46 PM
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Thanks cpayne. Andy, thanks for the thought. Here are my finish issues:
-My S4 has been buffed by POs and by me until 5 or 10% of the car is exposed factory primer. Too bad they did not use red primer like the F cars. I think it has patina. Wife does not think so.
-My convertable has a bunch of spots where I have done body work, but the paint is patched, and it shows.
-My 944 has a few rust spots coming up from the bottom. I need to deal with these, but then it will leave a huge blemish in the paint so I am delaying until I am ready to paint. Meanwhile the rust spreads.
-My speester replica is in origonal gelcoat, except where somebody hacked up the wheel wells, front end etc before I got it. I have repaired the hacked areas, but now it will need paint. Right now it is the speedster of many colors.
None of these cars is worth the cost of a good paint job, but I like them all, and want to keep and continue to repair and drive them.
-My S4 has been buffed by POs and by me until 5 or 10% of the car is exposed factory primer. Too bad they did not use red primer like the F cars. I think it has patina. Wife does not think so.
-My convertable has a bunch of spots where I have done body work, but the paint is patched, and it shows.
-My 944 has a few rust spots coming up from the bottom. I need to deal with these, but then it will leave a huge blemish in the paint so I am delaying until I am ready to paint. Meanwhile the rust spreads.
-My speester replica is in origonal gelcoat, except where somebody hacked up the wheel wells, front end etc before I got it. I have repaired the hacked areas, but now it will need paint. Right now it is the speedster of many colors.
None of these cars is worth the cost of a good paint job, but I like them all, and want to keep and continue to repair and drive them.
06-21-2011, 03:04 PM
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Burning Brakes
Its easier to do the matt wrap than the carbon fiber wrap. With the Carbon you can distort the pattern if you stretch too much. WIth the Matt wrap you dont have to worry about that. And to touch on somethign Paul said in another thread is that you will have to take the car apart to get it right.
06-21-2011, 03:23 PM
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Burning Brakes
I agree I just think they have different limits. I have yet to do an actual car yet. My 944 is guards red and the paint is in great shape or I would wrap that. Oh and you will def want four hands. Six would be best two to stretch over a large piece while someone else handles the heat gun. Although not necessary as I have seen people online do it themselves.