Speedtoys

I agree with you, but seafoam did NOT bust someone's motor..IIRC, the original statement was..

"from leaving seafoam in for a couple days"

..not a seafoam problem.


A USER problem, indeed. I cant hold seafoam OR the mine that produced the metal that made the can the seafoam was in, responsible for an idiot user.


..Which is where this thread left the reality tracks. Dont use it..fine, but..using it doesnt do anything harmful when used as directed..AS directed..AS directed.




(a play on the crappy head-on commercials that repeat over and over..if youve seen it)

Speedtoys

So..because the owner used to product _grossly incorrectly_...your lesson is to blame the product, and not the **** that didnt pull out his 1.5's to read the instructions on the can? Thats a pretty crappy take-away if you ask me. (Imagine me saying this with a smile over a beer, cuz thats how I mean it, not in a bad way)

A 5qt system should have what, about 1/2 a can in there? He used...4x too much?

Love ya..not trying to be a pain, but..although I dont use it either in my cars that dont -neeeeed- it, I still cant fault a product used incorrectly..or perhaps in a motor already done for...either of which, we dont know, and can only spectulate.


Somewhere..on the internet, is some **** that used BG cleaner incorrectly..and has a fried AFM, or other pile of newly disassociated aluminum parts on his hands. Is BG a ****ty product too?

Bill Ball

Putting 2 bottles in and running for week is probably a bad idea. Still, if there was that much sludge in the motor, it was not healthy to begin with. To get rid of sludge use synthetic oil and change it a few times.

soupcan

I haven't a clue of the condition of either engine before the seafoam was added but, one is in the salvage yard now. Was it used correctly? Nope. Does average joe read instructions? Nope. Is it worth the risk, Nope. Am I done debating it, Yup.

IcemanG17

Gotta agree with Bill...... In both of my "used" engines of unknown history, I would take some cheap "detergent" 10-40 dino oil and run for a little bit...idling, warm up & maybe a couple dyno runs at most.....then when its time for real racing I would install real oil.....amsoil racing 15-50 in my case..... 49 racing hours later and counting on my last $300 used engine..... However I did open that engine and inspect the bearings....which were perfect....

IcemanG17

bottom line is if there is lots of "sludge" inside the engine clearly a PO didn't change the oil properly and or used crap oil....any oil will turn to sludge in time.....

Speedtoys

*heh*


At one end of the lack of critical thinking stick, we have "seafoam kills engines" even when you use it in semi-truck portions.

The other end "Amsoil prevents failure by soaking in molecular sized particles of unobtanioxylbenzine into the metallic grains through the nature of the specific polarization and semi-nucleotidic state of the kirbortian polymetricides used in our race formulas".**


Well, we can have fun with both.


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**: Amsoil was not tested on rabbits, and is dolphin and llama free.

Ice: No work at track on 19th/Sunday? Just confirming.

17prospective buyer

As i have said... I do not plan on keeping any of it in the lubrication system at all. For getting rid of carbon buildup on the valves themselves and the cylinder walls it is recommended to slowly pour it through a large vaccuum line with a funnel and control the flow so that the motor does not die, then... well, it's easier to just watch this video, this guy is doing it "properly". Although he's using the PCV hose, same concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X832d4MtYUc

Speedtoys

Ya..done that, been there.

But..IMHO, there are better products and better delivery methods...just cost a little more.


BG cleaner, IMHO.


Theres a long thread or 2 on this..somewhere...*runs off to look*


But ya..thatll suck in, smoke out, soak in, and clean out a lot of what probably ISNT wrong with your car...may puddle a lot in the intake too...unknown, simply because of the unique intake of the 928 and the heavy wet delivery method.

blown 87

Tell us about that BG stuff.

17prospective buyer

Ah i see, i never really thought about the intake manifold's design. Everyone that sees the engine is always like "woa! what kind of manifold is that??!!" I suppose i may try this before the next oil change.

Nothing's "wrong" with my engine, i just figured this would be good measure to get crap out of a 24 year old engine that may never have been opened up.

Speedtoys

Drive the **** out of it.


Fixed.



Mine sat for 12yrs, and the more I drive it, the less it leaks.

justaguy

My personal experience with sea foam is limitted But I have used it .I Installed a junkyard motor in my race car dumped in about 10 or 11 quarts of the highest detergent cheapest 10-30 motor oil Napa had on the shelf and mixed in the correct amt of sea foam as per the directions. Ran the motor up to temp checked for leaks then ran it for about an hour on the dyno. Dumped the oil c/w sea foam and installed Amsoil have about 30 Hrs on track on that engine with no signs of faliure. Last oil change and filter opening showed no signs of wear.

That's all I got.
Sean

Bill Ball

OK.

https://rennlist.com/forums/6845582-post11.html

Bill Ball

Funny thing how cars smoke when you put oil in the intake.