In my book there is only one person capable of building a stroker motor that delivers the power it is supposed to and the customer service and expertise that makes it work in the long run - any guesses who that is? Caaaaa no your wrong its Greg Brown.
He is a ornery old bugger like me (joke) but he certainly gets the job done – look at his satisfied customers.
Others who bring so much to the party are Mike Simard and Jim Morton. Louis Ott, Dave Lomas and Sterling Gee. Honest people and to me that is what matters the most.

 

Roger, I've got one of Gregs motors here, can you copy it for me?

 

I have a company in Bandung, Indonesia who could do it in a heartbeat. However we would have to clone Greg Brown and they said no way. I guess it can't happen - sorry.

 

That is a good point.

Carl, serious question for a leader in the field of stroker engines, exactly how many have you built that ran?

You have made a veiled statement that you are the leader in the field of 928 strokers and that Greg is not, so how many have you built that did not blow up?

Hell for that matter how many 5.0's have you built that did not have issues?

 

once cloning is more main stream...... maybe...

 

oh boy, this is gonna get interesting!!!

 

Gonna need a lot of popcorn for this one now!

 

Could be a car show episode. A stroker shootout!

I would love to see and hear that one!

Walk softly and carry a big stick!

Then kick some ***!


If I had the cash I would send my car to Cali and tell Greg I wanted EVERYTHING up to my (beat the crap out of it standards) and have it shipped back to my house, drive the crap out of it for twenty yrs kicking *** along the way and when it was all said in done they could bury me in it cranking Zepplin at some insane volume until evrything got quiet!

 

I race my own parts - or another way to express that is I like to make all the parts that I build for my own race car available to the public.

If you went down the 32v long block list and selected pretty much everything, how much HP would that make? That depends on the CR and the Boost (if any) of the build.

In this case: http://www.928motorsports.com/928_land_speed.php
the engine last produced 900 HP at the crank with 18 psi of plenum pressure. I have an appointment to go back on Monday with a larger exhaust - we think there is a little more in it.

 

My experience is not completely on topic with this thread, I didn't buy a mega dollar stroker motor, but Carl did build my new 4.5L S/C track car motor and it runs perfect. His service, lead time and follow up were great.

Based on his work with his own race car, if I were to buy a monster engine I would at least consider working with Carl. Its' another option..... and in this very small hobby-market segment,

Options are good !

Also:
Competition = Good
Comparisons = good
Bashing = Not so good.

 

I agree 100%, and I just asked a simple question, how many strokers has Carl built, lets not count his own car.

To my knowledge with the exception of his own car I know of no one else that has a Carl stroker.

He implied that he IS the leader in building stroker motors, and I want to know how many he has running in customers cars.

The crap about the control arms being being good, I can not say about that, but I do know that they both were not the same, one was tight and one was loose.
Pretty sure both should have been the same.
That fact makes me question his claim that they were good.

If you want to take my questions as bashing so be it, but I am only asking a question.

I have yet to intentionally bash a vendor.

 

Back at ya, Greg - how many sleeved engines have you built?

Look, I'm the relative newbie here. I will give you that you have assembled more 928 engines than I have. Done. No arguement. Not sure you have assembled more engines than me... but more NA 928 engines, sure.

Our technology and HP desires drove us quickly into sleeving the 928 to handle higher boost levels, and we went through quite a few sleeving brands and machining techniques before we arrived at the methods and parts that work best about 2 seasons ago. These engines were all raced, over-heated, over-boosted and generally abused.

I would say to the consumer: if your goal is an engine for boost, we have more expoerience with that application.

Then I would also comment that the short-block is only part of the build. If the engine builder has no camshaft options for you,no porting options, no head gasket choices, no intake runner options, no header options, well, you get the idea.

We have developed all of these things, and in some cases (like head gaskets) more than one!

Some consumers embrace technology like we do. I think they will appreciate our complete selection to build a complete motor to their specific application.

It doesn't hurt, either, that every product is fully described so they can read up about it, and they can "add up" their engine build before they start, so they know what they are going to be paying with no surprises at the other end.

 

Greg, My comments were not directed specifically to you. Just an observation that the more argumentative it gets, the less we learn about the actual merits of the different vendor's offerings.

 

well said.

I've already said Greg has built more 928 engines than me. Hell, he's been doing 928's longer. But thats not the question.

The post is "who's the best to build a stroker motor". Building more of them is a good response, but not the only response. I favor research, new technology, and the builder with the rest of the bits that I need to complete the motor correctly. Example: a year ago we partnered with Ishihara-Johnson and re-designed a complete engine crank scraper system and windage tray just for stroker motors. And we have installed 2 of them since then. And I am using one in my own 900 HP motor.

And I repeat, if you want that 928 engine sleeved - I think the tables are turned and we have more experience at that.

I gotta go to the shop guys... tons of work to do. Testing the new Header-X today. I'll check back later.

 

Seems like a politicians answer to Greg's question.

How many bored/stroked motors do you have running in customers cars?

Lets not forget what your RWHP mark was on that car. And the fact that Louie was at almost 600RWHP with NO boost and 6.5L. You hit 765??? at the wheels with 18PSI.

I would be curious to see what your car would do with factory heads......